......deeply coveting lunatics who know all?...oh, what a futile emotion it is.

We`re all stupidfaces.

no wonder your literature pieces are so amazing

~who should have your pity? a person which is curious enough to discover the world, expanding what they've been given or the person who wastes their gifts with the mudane?~

if words aren't relevant, what is? with a well used word you can portray anything, ask anyone that speaks a non english language.

the cat jumped over the puddle
or
the yellow tabby lept easily over the puddle...

anyone can toss together some large words and make a sentence, a paragraph, or even to look smart, but a person who has the intelligence to know the words will see that it's just that...
i think you've proved my original point with this post...there are people who act intelligent to impress, using big words, but when used together, make little sense.

and then there are those who just are...you may think i'm pompous and conceited for considering my intelligence above the average masses(i've never denied my vanity)...but than i wonder how much experience you have with the masses?

i don't think anyone here is saying they know it all in a serious tone, it's impossible to know everything, but people who wish to try will never have a boring life...there's always a new discovery around the corner...

come on red, i know you can do better than stupidface you big meanie head!

i didn't take it too personal, just defending my opinion and statements...i just happen to be the example i know best

The frustration of the sisyphean task of understanding everything before my childhood ended made me stop and consider it in the light of a newfound comprehension of my own mortality. Having stopped to rest I realised I knew all I could ever learn of the 'big picture' from my methods of learning and instead set about the study of my own little picture in which I would be living until the day I die.

Ignorance of the world is bliss, ignorance of the self is torture and knowledge of the self necessitates an interest in others that eventualy leads you to learn about the world. In other words I was pleasantly suprised that in turning away from the world to concentrate on the people around me, myself and my immediate environment I was learning more than I had when I was seeking such knowlege.

I consider the truely intelligent person to be one who uses thier knowledge to it's fullest potential in accomplishing thier own goals. Knowledge as I've said before is not intelligence in itself, it takes a healthy mix of wisdom to turn knowledge into intelligence. Wisdom can be found with a minimum of knowledge simply by looking inwards with unblinkered eyes and needs no fancy words to share it with others.

The way I speak is due to my upbringing under my own concepts of what was important, my parents don't speak like I do, my mother is from northern England and my father from Plymouth...neither speak very eloquently (well) and that's why I've tried in the past to improve my speach so that I won't be judged by the inflection of my accent. My spelling is actualy very poor because I have slight dislexia which I make up for with a lot of practice and as many proof readings as possible. I don't think that complex language or correct spelling is important but try telling that to my examiners on my English course.

ah yes, but what happens when you discover everything about yourself?...that's why i'm constantly searching for new discoveries and knowledges...i know myself, now i want to know how i fit into the grand scheme of things...and how the grand scheme of things affect my surroundings., thoughts, belief and most importantly my life.

i think its funny to shirk from the possibility of transcendence in favor of religion.

but that was a bit of a tangent... sorry.

i've already transcended the mudane of myself and the world...now i need to ascend beyond this world...that's where the good secrets are!

The good secrets? How do you know they're good if they're secret?

Don't ascend too much it's pretty cold and lonely up there.

Ummm...i believe that's called a mystery...kind of like reacjing in a heavy bag, you never know until you just do it...

what do you know about my view of ascension...i've established my life, wants, desires, and needs...why should i not explore the unattainable, the not yet knowing...why should i let my curiousity stop?

It's only cold and lonely if you forget how to feel.

I find judging anyone, especially on the issue of intelligence is more likely to make me dismissive of all they say and therefore I lose any thoughts of relevants or insight they might contribute.

Judging intelligence is like judging beauty. I think I run more on intuition and instinct then intelligence, but I never claimed to be more then I am. Probably due to my lack of formal education, I find the whole concept of 'Fake Intelligentsia' really just 'lack of insight'.

Intelligentsia to me is more often reflected in a persons awareness and interpretation of their correlation to the 'big picture'. The webs we weave that bind the facts we've gathered.

well on language: Words can gain understanding. Someone who is useful in expressing themselves with words can be seductive, persuasive, and even very helpful in helping someone understand anything from directions to ontological thoughts that might be difficult to express aesthetically. Intelligence tends to way of language.

It of course is a possibility to be overly dependent on logic and ones knowledge that one denies instinct and intuition. If one has a pecularly strange development of understanding or of learning can be considered "mentally ill". As someone who learns to slow, it can be reverse as well. But their are obviously no specifics (in human reality) to assure the defined characteristics of the "mad genius" sort.

Thinking your not mad, (while believing one "shouldn't" be mad) while thinking that the world is insane is a premature notion, it is not being subjective enough about your purposes in your world.

empirical experience is like book knowledge. You cannot gain deep insight into being in the world through either of these ways.

I have some questions for everyone?
-Do you believe that anguish can lead to transcendence?
-Can someone really be a transcendent genious without looking rampant mad? can Einstien be truly called genius

-to Tentacledead-How complicated can ones version of the "big picture" be at such a early age, are you saying you only are looking through empirical means to define your subjective being in the world, i dont think that is possible?

actually it seems a fairly apt statement. i find it rather arrogant to define the world based on a loose consensus of inaccurate interpretations.

think about it. if the currents and trends of our world are all based on inaccurate interpretations then the closed we have to truth is egocentrism.

i believe anguish can lead to transcendence...if a person dwells more on fixing what is causing them anguish rather than blaming everything else, than learning why they are having issues helps them to rise above it, correct it and they are one step up in knowing how to eliminate anguish in their life...the more negative you eliminate, the more positive you're left with

my theory on the seeming insanities of those designated as geniuses is that their mind thinks and does so much, that the only way to cope with what it's displaying is to lose touch of the "basic world" embracing the one in your mind...it's easier to work with your own mind, then the minds of others...I think he can be called a genius, not because he was eccentric, but his mind was able to come up with concepts that most could not...his intentions weren't to make destructive weapons...it was latter scientists who took his genius and using a more educated intelligence came up with ways to destroy the world...

bobby fisher(the chess player) he was another person considered a genius...he could do amazing things with a chess board, but in the end he couldn't cope with what his mind contained...maybe that's where the mental issues come from...the human brain is not equipped yet to deal with the knowledge(the savants(sp))have in their head...kind of like blowing a fuse?

What was that about?

I was just inserting a few little examples. Loosen up!
I have these epileptoid tangented brainstromy things happen. I'm sorry you had to witness some of it.

God, no-one seems to get me...hmmm.....maybe I'm a mad genius......maybe just mad.

Well I get you Soulfull but that may not be a good sign..

How complicated can a child's view of the big picture be at a young age? I believe in my case it was pure chance that led me to fit everything I learned so easily into a world view and structured set of moral values (be they slightly amoral). I was in the right place and with the right ppl to make me see things. I haven't changed any of my main foundations of understanding since I was 7...I was a bit of a geek yes...I read science books, read