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11-24-02

Vague similarity? Try similarity at the very core definition of the word: "a belief system".
Art is supposed to be open to interpretation, if it isnt then imo it isnt any good at all and shouldnt be called art.


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11-24-02

But a belief system is the epiphany of relativity, it's defined by the individual. Couldn't you then say 'relativity' is not 'relative' as it is a universal concept.

In that case Art must be a relative concept.....that's what I love about it.


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11-24-02

I have a far more pertinant question...why does God wish us to worship him?

Art is the bullshit from within..i'm not saying it's not good...but i love bullshit..I define anything that allows you to enjoy life without seeking a definite goal as bullshit.

Art like some writing isn't always meant to be open to interpretation but to shape your thought so that you share a concept or feeling/emotion with it's creator.

Plus there is no evil only social concepts that have evolved with us to allow us to live long enough to breed, if serial killing was the norm we'd have evolved to be really good at it..in this scenario you'd end up with just one human really good at killing standing on a pile of other humans.
There is only one absolute truth and that is chaos...and even that doesn't let you study it.

Bet there's a damn sight too many artworks entitled Chaos or even worse Kaos



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11-24-02

I bet there's a lot of works of art entitled 'Chaos' tho.


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11-24-02

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1)But a belief system is the epiphany of relativity, it's defined by the individual. 2)Couldn't you then say 'relativity' is not 'relative' as it is a universal concept.

In that case Art must be a relative concept.....that's what I love about it.
1)Duh
2)I do
God knows how you came to that conclusion

and thats enough from me.


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11-25-02

ohhh...you're a grumpy little thing. Is there no magic in your life Red?

Hey Tenticledead I thought chaos has been proved not to be random.???


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11-25-02

Chaos is random...some scientists and mathematicians have found patterns within it but on closer inspection they are illusions..of course this like almost everything is controvercial..Structured chaos is not chaos by my understanding.



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12-09-02

and what pray tell do these chains of abstract thought have to do with life?

good? evil? they dont exist in that when you look closely at the concepts they are insupportable! fallacy!

so what if god exists?
has he ever bothered with any of you personally?

well then what reference has he on your life.

chaos is chaos precicely because it IS chaos and therefor cannot be structured as its very nature is unstable and unstructured,

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and what pray tell do these chains of abstract thought have to do with life?

good? evil? they dont exist in that when you look closely at the concepts they are insupportable! fallacy!

so what if god exists?
has he ever bothered with any of you personally?
"Good and evil are supportable by fact.God has been very close to me and touched my life heart through others"
Ooo contridicting without proof.


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12-13-02

God is dead thankfully he didn't notice on account of not existing.



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12-14-02

thank god for that.


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Re: The Existence of Evil - 12-30-02

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Originally posted by Sephiroth
Commonly cited as reason for denying God's existence.

Basic logic goes thus...

1. God's benevolence means that God will not do evil or allow evil to be done. (Note that it is not that God cannot do evil for that would restrict God's power. God can do evil but will not do it because God is good.)

And

2. God's omnipotence means that God has the power to ensure that no evil will be done.

Therefore

3. If God exists there will be no evil in the world. (Because, by premises (1) and (2), God has both the will and the power to prevent all evil.)

But

4. There is evil in the world.

Therefore

5. God does not exist

This arguement is known as modus tollens -- if p then q, not-q therefore not p.

Any thoughts or opinions, do you think this can prove there is no God?
Only if one accepts your first two premises as true...


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