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08-11-02

Evolution is the process by which an organism becomes better suited to it's environment. The ultimate goal is to be at the top of the food chain. While primitive animals must still do this, humans have reached their peak. This is because we now longer have to adapt to our environment, because we make the environment change to suit us.


  
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08-11-02

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The two mentioned are Leviathan and Behemoth..... both taken from Babylonian Mythos.....

The bible tells more than just history (or storys as you may preferr).

As far as I know Adam didnt write anything down, but I imagine he would have told about the truth to everyone.
The babylonians could have just made up storys based on those teachings.


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Evolution does not belong in the religion forum - 08-11-02

I understand that we don't have a science forum, but I must protest the topic of evolution being left in the same forum as the be all end all of the thinking mind, religion. It only makes the fundies smile to see evolution treated as debatable on the same terms of Hinduism and Islam.
"Well, I can spew bullshit and quote the bible to prove those religions are wrong, I bet I don't have to learn a damn thing, I can just use the same tactics to argue a branch of science is wrong, too."

If there were a thread on gravity, which forum would it go in? Wherever it would end up is where the threads on evolution should go.


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08-11-02

Science is the evolution of religion. But I would just put it in the General board myself. I hate all these fucking side-boards.


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08-12-02

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The bible tells more than just history (or storys as you may preferr).

As far as I know Adam didnt write anything down, but I imagine he would have told about the truth to everyone.
The babylonians could have just made up storys based on those teachings.
The Babylonians Predate any Christian writings by about 1,000 years.... the first hebrew entry to the bible was Genesis.... which was brought by Abraham to the Holy City from the babylonian city of Ur.... Abraham left Ur when the babylonian King gave the Jews thier Freedom.... although they were pretty much free folk in most Babylonian cities.... some though considered slaves were richer than the common babylonian citizen.... as i have stated before... you need to do some research before arguing these points.... i do it.... what makes you so special that you can provide us with baseless assumptions???? research..... and reading.... are those beyond your grasp???



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08-12-02

Maybe in your touchy feely everything is as right as everything else and no one should make fun of anything world, but in reality, science and religion are very different and came from seperate branches of learning.


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08-12-02

i'll merge all the "evolution" threads into this one and toss it down to philosophy...let rogue enjoy



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08-13-02

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the first hebrew entry to the bible was Genesis....
Chronologically, as it was written, it was Job. In the book itself, yeah, it's Genesis.



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Chronologically, as it was written, it was Job. In the book itself, yeah, it's Genesis.
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08-13-02

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Evolution is the process by which an organism becomes better suited to it's environment. The ultimate goal is to be at the top of the food chain. While primitive animals must still do this, humans have reached their peak. This is because we now longer have to adapt to our environment, because we make the environment change to suit us.
That was the point I was trying to make, thanks for clarifying.
Although I disagree that humans are no longer evolving.
Consider how knowledge is aquired and passed on through generation's until it becomes common knowledge. Isn't that evolution?
It does make us better suited to our envioroment.


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08-14-02

THE MORAL ANIMAL by Robert Wright.....

talks about evolution of desire........pretty interesting to read if one is curious about human evolution


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08-15-02

im failing to see a coherant arguement here... stop talking about who wrote what book in the bible when and state the point of this thread... anybody...


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too torture you my dear rogue...I have another if you'd like



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08-19-02

When are you dumb bastards going to actually look at the older threads about evolution? I stated a perfect explanation as to why evolution is an impossibility without some outside force that we do not yet know of. By the way, natural selection is NOT evolution, but a tool of evolution.


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i do not know where any othoer evolution threads are, so i will not look for them......

anyway, an outside force? i disagree, for if you do not consider the millions of years that have evolved without some unearthly outside force, such as a metorite, then there is no outside force.....for evolution may entail organsims, but speaking in terms of the world, there is no outside force......although, i will agree that specific organisms need an outside force to evolve....

i was watching this show the other night talkng about evolution among islands.....on certain secluded islands, bats no longer fly but instead walk, certain birds, other than penguins, swim, and certain land lizards have adapted a way to survive for a few hours under water.....somewhere in hawaii, which was explained as the most diverse climates (ranging from snowy peeks, to deserts, to marshes, to jungles) has a certain bug which can survive atop snowy peeks, feeding off other bugs which mistakenly were blown up there and froze....


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somewhere in hawaii, which was explained as the most diverse climates (ranging from snowy peeks, to deserts, to marshes, to jungles) has a certain bug which can survive atop snowy peeks, feeding off other bugs which mistakenly were blown up there and froze....
hawaii has 20 of the 21 Climates upon the Earth... Sub-arctic is the only on it lacks..... Mauna Kea goes from the ocean to almost 13,000 feet in a mere 60 miles..... all 20 climates can be found on the Big Island Of Hawaii....



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of course, id hate to be on the hawaiian isle during a sea impact of a large asteroid... give me mountain valleys baby!


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of course, id hate to be on the hawaiian isle during a sea impact of a large asteroid... give me mountain valleys baby!
Only if it occured in the Pacific.... hehe.... if it hit the Atlantic.... well bye bye England and the whole US Eastern Seaboard.....



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like i said... mountain valleys, baby! just a hop, skip, and a jump to higher ground and upslant caves...


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like i said... mountain valleys, baby! just a hop, skip, and a jump to higher ground and upslant caves...
hehe I live in Utah..... about 4,000 feet above sea level..... and lots of much taller mountains around.... with tons of caves...



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