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people have the tendency to make babies to try and keep their failing bond with their mates... for a while this works, but ususally ends with a divorce and an unhappy child...

such is life...
i am proof...but my parents aren't divorced.
  
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I voted for pain. I never thought of cutters as fearing the lack of feeling more on the lines of hating it. Some people can hate without fear in my opinion.
I do not fear the Backstreet Boys.


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I do not fear the Backstreet Boys.

LMAO...god id hope u wouldnt fear them, unless they were like gonna make a move on ya...that would be scarey
  
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people have the tendency to make babies to try and keep their failing bond with their mates... for a while this works, but ususally ends with a divorce and an unhappy child...

such is life...
You ought to search out the license to breed thread in the General Forum. Far as I can tell, there were no dissenters...


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08-15-01

hmm... im not in a digging mood, but my wisdom stands...

hey red nice vote if i may say so.... pain is the universal constant...


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08-15-01

Love...it's the root of all three.
Nothing can hurt like love.
I've never hated anyone as much as one who hurt me
and I've never felt such anger as watching him kiss her, as he once kissed me. So it has to be love



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ill tell u what can hurt like love... THE FUCKING ABSENCE OF IT...

PAIN... PAIN is the master emotion...


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very tough question
  
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what a copout


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ill tell u what can hurt like love... THE FUCKING ABSENCE OF IT...

PAIN... PAIN is the master emotion...
So you're saying that lack of love causes pain?

Then it's the lack of the one emotion that causes the other. Doesn't that make the former the stronger?

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08-16-01

Is pain really considered an emotion though? From what I understand pain is a physical manifestation of an outer effect or influence if you will. I suppose you were talking about emotional pain. Duh that would make sense *smacks forehead*

In my opinion, I dont think any of them surpasses the other. I understand when some say that love is stronger because it is the cause of emotional pain, and it is what makes one hate another. There are flaws in this theory though.

First of all, hate can be caused by many things such as jelousy, envy or simply narcissism. Emotional pain can be caused by many other things as well. One can be mocked at school in adolecence causing emotional pain. It doesnt mean that the "child" had any feelings of love towards his tormentors.

Now one might fear the future loss of a loved one, or but that does not make the emotion any stronger. In other words, since the love caused the fear, and if this fear becomes reality, the causes of this will eventually establish an emotional pain or hatred in this individual. Then again a fear might cause someone to love an individual, and this love might lead to emotional pain which causes a hatred towards the source. Thus, these socially common emtions do not surpass one another, but work together in a never ending cycle for the purposes of individual destruction.
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08-16-01

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So you're saying that lack of love causes pain?

Kat
Lack of love, loving someone already taken, having someone you love abuse you etc.


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pain is an emotion... lets say, a baseline emotion. u can gather pain from any number of higher order emotions.

ever hear of the sayings "a pained expression"? or "that must pain him"?

while yes even below the baseline, pain can be broken down to neural impulses, once it reaches the brain it ceases to be a physiological function and becomes a psychological one... it is the psychology of pain that makes it an emotion...


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pain is an emotion... lets say, a baseline emotion. u can gather pain from any number of higher order emotions.

ever hear of the sayings "a pained expression"? or "that must pain him"?

while yes even below the baseline, pain can be broken down to neural impulses, once it reaches the brain it ceases to be a physiological function and becomes a psychological one... it is the psychology of pain that makes it an emotion...
I figured that out after I had written the first sentence.


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Allright, I can see that. But as I gather from another thread on here, SI is using physical pain to substitute for not feeling anything else. That sounds more like replacement emotions. And from what I have gathered from both you and Red, it's lack of love, love betrayed, or loving the wrong person that is responsible most often for pain? Or have I misread that?

Wouldn't that make love stronger than pain? It seems to me that it would.

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You read it right on me but I still think pain is stronger.
Love causes the worst pain yes but it doesnt effect everyone. Is the lack of love hate or indifference?


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You read it right on me but I still think pain is stronger.
Love causes the worst pain yes but it doesnt effect everyone. Is the lack of love hate or indifference?
I think if you hate someone whom you used to love, you feel too much for them. Very little brings out more intense hatred than someone you used to love. So I suppose in that way... the diametric opposition of love is indifference. I still think hate is the flip side of the coin however.

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You read it right on me but I still think pain is stronger.
Maybe pain is stronger for you, currently, because that's what you're feeling the most? I would think that if you're feeling primarily one emotion, then that emotion would be the strongest for you...

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08-16-01

I love pain, hate pain, fear pain.

Yes thats true, I said before that i might vote the way I felt at the time. All the arguements didnt effect me as much as I thought they would. Still interesting though.


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funny how fear and love are ranking the same....they both cant be the strongest....cuz wat if u find urself loving someone and yet you fear to love them at the same time? quite a bit of irony here....
  
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