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Serious Discussion Discuss On civilization, enlightenment and culture. in the Discussions forums; Originally Posted by thefr0g Ooooh... I understand. You're batshit fucking insane. And your orphanage story was simply heartbreaking. You have truly proven this day that you have lead a ...

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11-06-05

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Ooooh... I understand.

You're batshit fucking insane.

And your orphanage story was simply heartbreaking. You have truly proven this day that you have lead a harder life than me. Good job! Now what, exactly, is your point? Cuz you say "no laws" then graphically describe reasons we need laws.
I guess youre not being intentionally daft, but it is an accident?

I tell you what frog boy, if you can quote me where I said "no laws" and/or advocated anarchy (to read no laws, no government, no social structure etc etc) Ill leave this forum and never bother yous guys again.

I guessed you missed the point of a child molester getting off scotfree, while victimless crimes can get you decades in prison. My point being, the government should have very few powers and responsibilities and do them well. and frankly anyone who has been to the dmv and would still advocate more government control is surely either insane or a sadist.

and billy, though you deserve no effort on my part due to the utter lack of respect you managed to earn from me...I have lived in mexico, and central america. doh!

also about your accusing me of never having to work a hard day in my life, i have worked second jobs for free in order to gain marketable skills, i have worked since I was 14 as it was mandatory in the independent living program I was placed in. I have usually worked two jobs, my longest run was doing demolition, framing, hanging and mudding walls during the day and then bartending.
Ive been in everything from djing bar tending and bar management to locksmithing to demolition, construction and structural repair (jacking up houses and replacing beams etc) to owning my own home inspections company and being a home inspector to the job I do now handling hundreds of thousands of dollars in people's interests as their advocate.

I certainly have flaws and shortcomings in my character in a few areas, and trust me Im my own worst critic on the merits, but Ive never been lazy or gone looking for someone to take care of me. Now I am realizing and enjoying the fruits of my labor and life is good. It is a blessing to appreciate the small things. But Im sure youre quite familiar with that.

so inclosing, yes I have sweet tits, yes Im accused of being "insane" lots, yes I refused to take meds, no Im not lazy, yes I have seen the worst of humanity at an age most kids are thinking about santa claus and the easter bunny, yes I expect people to be the best they can be, no I dont think the government is the answer to all of our problems and certainly not our discomfort, no Im not advocating anarchy, just limited, efficient and a working government especially in the legislative department, yes I think you and billy are kinda dumb, or must be high or something to be jumping to the conclusions you have in this thread concerning what Ive said and finally yes, the egg did come before the chicken...its evolution baby.

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11-07-05

Actually, Derdy reminds me a lot of my earlier posts when I first started coming here. I wouldn't want her banned either.

It doesn't sound like you want to actually be saying much I'd disagree with, Derdy, but you could use some serious work on saying it more concisely. It's not dumbing shit down to put your argument in the cleanest, most precise format possible. It's actually enabling better communication and debate.


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Derdy, but you could use some serious work on saying it more concisely. It's not dumbing shit down to put your argument in the cleanest, most precise format possible. It's actually enabling better communication and debate.
youll find when I post, it is like Im actually speaking to some one. Im not sure what people see when they look at my posts, but perhaps if they viewed them as if someone were speaking to them and they werent reading an essay it would flow better. I am an odd person no doubt about it, you say I remind you of you when you first started posting (which is hardly ever a cool thing to say to anyone by the way), well I doubt Im very much like you at all unless youre a little

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You left out a big helping of arrogance, the key ingredient. But hey, I usually go for that in a broad anyway, so thats cool.


  
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I am an odd person no doubt about it, you say I remind you of you when you first started posting (which is hardly ever a cool thing to say to anyone by the way),
Oh, I'm aware.


I'm not made from the sown together body parts of various peoples either, for that matter, but one can try. My sympathy for your plight.

Nah, I'm just kidding, you guys are great.


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youll find when I post, it is like Im actually speaking to some one. Im not sure what people see when they look at my posts, but perhaps if they viewed them as if someone were speaking to them and they werent reading an essay it would flow better. I am an odd person no doubt about it, you say I remind you of you when you first started posting (which is hardly ever a cool thing to say to anyone by the way), well I doubt Im very much like you at all unless youre a little

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a little of this chick
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a little punk, jazz, groove ,funk mixed in with a weee bit of teh unconventional and crazy...but thats part of my charm and why Im in high demand.

here, have one of my cards.
No, you are speaking at people. Not with them.
  
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Man, can you guys be hard on "The New 'Guy'" or what.


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Was that a question?
  
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No question, just an observation.


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We kid. We kid because we love.


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No, you are speaking at people. Not with them.
Coming from you, that's funny. Derdy is indeed rather long-winded but I see nothing seriously wrong with that.


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The difference though Denelay, is that between my arrogance and cruelty I am also cute and fluffy.
  
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I dont guess I get to tell you what I guess about you before white knuckled mods send me "warnings".

So I wont say That youre probably a frustrated powerless "little' man who only ever feels powerful when on the internet because youre a spineless, sorry, insignificant little piece of maggot turd, I wont say that because it would be wrong and against teh rulez.

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Lets take a short look at why you were not warned for this statement and than get back to your little piece about white knuckled mods.

Firstly IF in a debate that is seeming to go somewhere between folks sometimes the random insult will get overlooked because it seemingly does not cut the stride of the debate in half-- which is the case here. Though if that insult had become the focal point of a flame-war which drove the entire thread off-topic we the "white-knuckled" Moderators would have had to find the root and cut it out and warn the person who decided to begin it. This was not the case as the debate went on without a hitch.

Now derdy. We do have rules here. Those rules are a guideline for healthy and great debate without descending into a pit of neverending flames and idiocy. If we as Moderators see that a random insult does not effect the main point of a debate we will allow it and continue on. If it is seen to fracture or harm the ongoing debate it will be tended to.

All we ask is very simple in ideal. Do not attack the poster rather attack thier ideals because once you attack the poster themselves it often leads to the end of the debate at hand and goes into a spiraling downward flame-fest of absolute stupidity.

We are not white-knuckled. We have a set of rules which you may or may not agree with that we also must follow and interpret on a case by case basis. Whenever we do make decisions someone is going to hate that decision.
Our present system is the most merciful system we have ever had in place.

So please do not assume. And please do not degrade conversations by demeaning others.

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By the way. Philosophy is a product of civilized culture. Greece.



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God damned Greeks.. and thier Greekocity! Did you know that modern military formation and tactic is also based on the Spartans? Right down to most of the ranks.
  
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By the way. Philosophy is a product of civilized culture. Greece.
I'll agree that the Greeks did well in establishing philosophy on a global scale but eastern philosophy alone was established well before then.


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I'll agree that the Greeks did well in establishing philosophy on a global scale but eastern philosophy alone was established well before then.
well I wouldnt say it was established. It was rudimentary at best. Eastern Philosophy didnt get its big kick until Buddhism arrived from India and merged with a lot of the crude taoist theories. Even then the greeks had already been ahead in that field.
  
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By the way. Philosophy is a product of civilized culture. Greece.
phi·los·o·phy [ fi lóssəfee ] (plural phi·los·o·phies)

noun Definitions: 1. examination of basic concepts: the branch of knowledge or academic study devoted to the systematic examination of basic concepts such as truth, existence, reality, causality, and freedom

2. school of thought: a particular system of thought or doctrine

3. guiding or underlying principles: a set of basic principles or concepts underlying a particular sphere of knowledge

4. set of beliefs or aims: a precept, or set of precepts, beliefs, principles, or aims, underlying somebody's practice or conduct

5. calm resignation: restraint, resignation, or calmness and rationality in somebody's behavior or response to events



Id like to know how any of that is exclusive to the greeks or so called "civilized" man.
  
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