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01-19-03

Merlin? I thought that was a sufi saying?
  
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01-19-03

Reincarnation has always seemed right to me, and karma, hence, we will progress as spiritual beings having an earthly experience until we have learned what we need to. I don't think you have to learn who you were previously to be the best you can now. The trials you face today are your lessons for the future.

In the beginning, there was nothing, which exploded.


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01-21-03

i think i was once eaten by a shark, which explains my irrational fear of those goddamn fish......it used to be so bad i wouldn't even take a bath or close my eyes in the shower, and i still refuse to go swimming alone......goddamn sharks!


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01-22-03

How the hell do you know who you've been? How do you distinguish between who you really have been and who you'd like to have been? Who goes through the world getting walked all over knowing in the depths of their heart that SOMEDAY they will be avenged? I'm trying not to be skeptical, but ...
I'm prettymuch agnostic about everything.


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01-22-03

well, i think the Dali Lama was the Dali Lama prior......that's why he's reincarnated, cause he's the fucking Dali Lama.....him and the Parchen Lama and the Karmapa Lama


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01-29-03

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i ponder all the time whether or not im the only real person... kinda a Kurt Vanegut dilemma... but then i wonder, if i am the only real being and every else is just a figment of my imagination, how is it that this isnt a ammorphous paradise? or was it at one time, but i got board of paradise and decided to make things more interesting with pain and all those wonderful things?
Ever see that Tom cruise movie vanella sky. When he died he contiuneued his life in a dream while he was crynogeniclly frozen, but he didn't know it. He picked a point weeks before his death for his "split" into his fantasy dream life, but it became a nightmare. And it seemed all he had to do was will his mind to bring it back into a fantasy, but his unconscious was fucking around with him. Sorry if i misexplained it or gave it away.
  
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01-29-03

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Here is a Passage from the book "The 21 Lessons of Merlin" which i belive fits this category of cyclic rebirth

I died as a mineral and became a plant
I died as a plant and rose to animal
I died as an animal and i was man
Why should i fear? When was i ever less by dying?
Yet once more i shall die as a man to soar
in the blessed realm, but even from godhood
i must pass on

it also states
"Each atom an evolving life, each blade of grass a potential soul"

Eh?......How do you die as a mineral? that makes no sence..and why should you rise up? and what decides to what you rise? and why is a man on a greater level than a plant?

Each atom of the universe could very well end up part of something living but in the death of the living creature all atoms loose thier structures...the only way to be reincarnated is through a soul or some such which I cannot dissmiss for it is as intangible as innocense..or wisdom..many things I shall not believe until I see.



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01-29-03

Maybe the only thing that separates our atoms from the glass we hold is our soul. We are as one with the universe."I died as a mineral and became a plant", metaphorically the birth of awareness?


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01-29-03

But to cut off the hand that holds the glass is to remove your 'self' from the glass even if the hand still touches it. You only percieve your body as 'you' when it is sending signals through nerves to your brain. Keep a human brain alive away from the body and it would still percieve a self. This would mean that what is 'you' is in the brain and when that brain is destroyed....



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01-29-03

Perception cannot be caressed. If you wacked some lips on the jar containing my brain my soul would feel the kiss.


Which brings to mind......"Oh pointy bird, oh pointy, pointy. Anoint my head, anointy, noity"


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01-29-03

But imaginings are merely the brains way of experimenting with the world before applying an idea or action to reality. I recite in my head what to say before I say it aloud...only in the speaking does it become real.

I've heard that poem before..is it Pratchett?



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01-29-03

It does come to a belief system. My soul dictates my brain. In my head reality resides with hope and love and temperance. Love has no more weight in the utterance.


The poem is from a movie 'The Man With Two Brains', Steve Martin and Kathleen Turner. I'm not sure who actually wrote it.


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01-29-03

Without a lover and a loved the very word Love is bereft of meaning. In your head you do indeed apply your emotional world to that of the tangible world...but surely in death only the tangible remains...If reality really resided within a human head it must needs be limited in size indeed to fit.

And with the destruction of all humanity think you not that 'reality' would remain?

Funny I was thinking of that movie too...I could fall in love with a brain.



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01-29-03

Often has the use of the humble earplug kept reality from spilling onto my weary shoulder and dark glasses prevented the world from viewing my eyes popping under the strain of containment. Can we be so egotistical to believe that reality would cease without our witting commentary?

I have loved a brain with greater passion then any body.


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02-01-03

mhmm i think that "god" wanst there to be more people to go to heaven... soo he sends out a brand new soul every once in a while... hence: the increase.

i dont believe in hell. i believe that earth=hell and the reason we are being reincarnated is to learn as much as we possibly can in hell so we can reach the greater world....

...just my thoughts...


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02-01-03

Hell's pretty tame so far...I expect a little more brimstone from my pergatory! (come on demons bring it on)



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02-01-03

I would have to explore my mind in more depth before I could define specific past incarnations.


A golden energy
Was rising out of my head
I shed my evil skin
And found myself again

I was wrong, I don't mind
The impossible seems possible
This time I'm an electric wire
If the sun can radiate then so can I


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02-01-03

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mhmm i think that "god" wanst there to be more people to go to heaven... soo he sends out a brand new soul every once in a while... hence: the increase.

i dont believe in hell. i believe that earth=hell and the reason we are being reincarnated is to learn as much as we possibly can in hell so we can reach the greater world....

...just my thoughts...
Hell must be overpopulated.


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02-02-03

does the soul influence the development of the brain or does the brain influence the development of the soul?

Of course I haven't had any of that medition or hypnosis stuff so my knowledge of any past lives doesn't amount to much


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02-02-03

Aren't they tied together untill you die? Theoretically, anyay.


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