i heard that Wumpscuts new album is out already..i havent had the time to look for it..nor money to buy it if i did find it. Has anyone listened to it yet? I also heard VNV's new one is to be out soon. These are two very good bands. If you havent heard of them..go find them.

I apologize for not being overly elated over either band's newest, as VNV nation appears to have abandoned any even remote resemblence to industrial long ago, jumping the express route to EBM synthpop junk, and every :W: album has sounded the same since M.F.A.S.T. (except Bunkertor 7)... call me bitchy.

Deep down inside i was still grasping at hope for these two bands because they seemed to have such promise at one point in time. im hoping they will surprise me one day.