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(AGE) What play does it truly have in a relationship? I don't need advice persay, because I have my own set of morals and such. But I am left needing insights. I believe that falls within this forums guidelines well enough.

So again, what is it that age plays in a relationship? How old is too old and why, then when would it be ok and when wouldn't it be ok? What role does age play with gays and lesbians? I want to hear it all...Ever opinion is very much wanted and welcome.

Please keep in mind that I haven't done anything and am not ploting to. I'm no kiddy porn junky or anything either, just looking for DFers to speak on this subject for insights into it thats all.

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To me, age is all about personal compatibility. On a completely individual level, it's a couple's internal age (or even maturity level) that helps them to sustain a relationship. Your ability to tolerate eachother, learn from eachother or even communicate with eachother is based on the "age" you're at. That's what I think.

Then there are laws to protect kids from sex offenders, and I believe in those, even though some underage kids are totally ready for it (and that freaks me out, but I know it to be true)

Otherwise, age doesn't matter because you can't really pull rank in a relationship like you can here at darkforum



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To me, age is all about personal compatibility. On a completely individual level, it's a couple's internal age (or even maturity level) that helps them to sustain a relationship. Your ability to tolerate eachother, learn from eachother or even communicate with eachother is based on the "age" you're at. That's what I think.

Then there are laws to protect kids from sex offenders, and I believe in those, even though some underage kids are totally ready for it (and that freaks me out, but I know it to be true)

Otherwise, age doesn't matter because you can't really pull rank in a relationship like you can here at darkforum




Yeah I know, get inline soldier! Joking.

You share some of the same thoughts and ideas I do with age. So through your eyes if a 17 year old was with a 13 year old and they didn't have a dark realtiongship (I.E. abusive, fights, and such) you would see nothing wronge with it? What if she was 12 or younger? How young would be totaly strange...and would it mater if the guy was the younger one, him being at 12 or younger and why?

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age means NOTHING in a relationship so long as noone involved can get in legal trouble over it. Beyond that it only boils down to maturity which has very little to do with age so much as it does with what has been learned within said age


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I've dated a few girls 10 years younger than me when I was 28-30. It was fun, the sex was good, but there was no compatability for a long term relationship. I was at a different place in life from them.

If the age difference isn't as extreme, I don't see a problem. I'm 36 and my girlfriend is 40. We don't have any age related issues.
  
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age means NOTHING in a relationship so long as noone involved can get in legal trouble over it. Beyond that it only boils down to maturity which has very little to do with age so much as it does with what has been learned within said age


Ok so lets make believe we live in a world with no such laws that shake the finger at age and relationships, still have to stop at stop sighs and everything just forget the laws applying to age. What then?

Lets talk about a Jerry Springer type of thing, you speak of maturity. Say a 19 year old is with a 11 yeah old. She reads and writes at a collage level (lol so much better then me) and has a huge vocab? The 19 year old male is smart and has some deep moral values, he just seemed to fall for this girl. Looks wise she looks of corse young but not her age. And the fam is 9Just assume out of the picture) What then??? Then if you CAN make a sound answer, switch the roles, male young then female old, then what???

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I've dated a few girls 10 years younger than me when I was 28-30. It was fun, the sex was good, but there was no compatability for a long term relationship. I was at a different place in life from them.

If the age difference isn't as extreme, I don't see a problem. I'm 36 and my girlfriend is 40. We don't have any age related issues.


I don't view that as to bad myself, good on ya sir lol...

Say them girls tho, that you speak of were at the same point in life that you were, what then? We know the sex is good. Was there one that might of just might of been perfect? If so, -8 years...would it still have worked the way it it or didn't????


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Ok so lets make believe we live in a world with no such laws that shake the finger at age and relationships, still have to stop at stop sighs and everything just forget the laws applying to age. What then?

Lets talk about a Jerry Springer type of thing, you speak of maturity. Say a 19 year old is with a 11 yeah old. She reads and writes at a collage level (lol so much better then me) and has a huge vocab? The 19 year old male is smart and has some deep moral values, he just seemed to fall for this girl. Looks wise she looks of corse young but not her age. And the fam is 9Just assume out of the picture) What then??? Then if you CAN make a sound answer, switch the roles, male young then female old, then what???

Thank you for your input. Glad to have your insights, keep it flowin!
well see that age differance CAN get you in legal trouble for therefore makeing it a serious problem period. As far as gender differances it doesent really matter with age differance. I myself am 24 about to be 25 Ive dated 18 year olds AND 35 year olds and everything in betwen.


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well see that age differance CAN get you in legal trouble for therefore makeing it a serious problem period. As far as gender differances it doesent really matter with age differance. I myself am 24 about to be 25 Ive dated 18 year olds AND 35 year olds and everything in betwen.


Well I think we all can understand that...but I mean put aside the law and just go on moral values alone just for conversation sake?


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08-23-04

I'm fifteen, and I've dated people that are my age, up to people in their early 30's. I say fuck it. Legal or not legal (ususally not for me, have you noticed?) Sometimes personalites mesh and feeling can get very strong, nevermind the age difference.


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I'm fifteen, and I've dated people that are my age, up to people in their early 30's. I say fuck it. Legal or not legal (ususally not for me, have you noticed?) Sometimes personalites mesh and feeling can get very strong, nevermind the age difference.


Powerful statement.

But do you ever feel differently?

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Okay, laws aside...when it comes down to kids younger than 11 or 12, the whole issue is puberty. An adult relationship involves a certain degree of physical intimacy that an 11-12 year old (and younger) isn't ready to deal with. When 6th graders date, it's for like a week of holding hands, and they don't even know what the fuck they're doing, other than being friends with a girl or with a boy, which has become taboo in the playground society. I think that's the borderline for relationships...if a 35 year old wants to be "boyfriend and girlfriend" with a 10 year old, but maintain a non-sexual relationship, (it's mainly just suspicious), but come on, what on earth could they have in common to build an intimate friendship on? *shrug*

I think the years between 11 and 14 are more about learning about yourself than learning about someone else...so intimate relationships are prpetty much questionable...after that it's about the comfort level of the two involved.



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Do you think there's a different age code for same-sex relationship development than for heterosexual couples?



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Okay, laws aside...when it comes down to kids younger than 11 or 12, the whole issue is puberty. An adult relationship involves a certain degree of physical intimacy that an 11-12 year old (and younger) isn't ready to deal with. When 6th graders date, it's for like a week of holding hands, and they don't even know what the fuck they're doing, other than being friends with a girl or with a boy, which has become taboo in the playground society. I think that's the borderline for relationships...if a 35 year old wants to be "boyfriend and girlfriend" with a 10 year old, but maintain a non-sexual relationship, (it's mainly just suspicious), but come on, what on earth could they have in common to build an intimate friendship on? *shrug*

I think the years between 11 and 14 are more about learning about yourself than learning about someone else...so intimate relationships are prpetty much questionable...after that it's about the comfort level of the two involved.


Bravo! Well said!

You make the truth seem so much clearer!

See I watched a movie a few days ago, with a few 13 year olds in it ( I think the movie was called 1 and the two girls were like kinda sluty, but ya know its like you said, time to learn who they are at that age and such and well they tryed to get this older guy to make out with them he was like 20-21 something like that and it got me thinking. He just got to kissing them and then just couldn't go on with it. The girls were good looking for their age and its hard to turn off that part of the male body sometimes. But he did.Now the two girls of corse were acting a part in a movie but still it was very interesting to say the least.

New senario, what if the two are both the same age just very young, at that age of 11-13ish and deside to have sex? Both of sound mind and judgement. What then? Cause its happening more and more in todays world.


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Yes...most that I've seen like to have a male female role in them even if there are two of the same sexes in that relationship. With that said, the norm is that in a real male and female relationship the female is a bit younger. mind you that even tho today we are finding more older females with male still its that 51st persent that points it the other way.

So again yes. I do think there is a difference but yet still the same...

"Sigh" No sence I made!

I guess what I mean is its not to far off from different but its still the same.


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i'm a 17 year old lesbian, soon to be 18 in early october. my girlfriend is 19, nearly 20. i believe that the same rules should apply to both hetero and homosexual couples. age IS a big deal when it comes down to preteens and teenagers dating near-or full grown adults. the age difference between my sig. other and i is not relative because of a closeness in age. i cannot say that i would date a woman in her late twenties, thirties, or beyond. there seems to almost be an invisible barrier between the generations. i mean, who WON'T admit that anna nicole smith's(in her early 20's) marriage to a 80 or 90 something year old man didn't gross them out?


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i mean, who WON'T admit that anna nicole smith's(in her early 20's) marriage to a 80 or 90 something year old man didn't gross them out?
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