I've known a huge amount of smokers, and was raised by some as well.
99% of the smokers that I have known and met have been incapable of making choices which would be overtly beneficial toward them.

Example: One smoker I knew, after having been diagnosed with cancer and then going through the surgery was warned that smoking would cause the cancer to occur again. They continued smoking. That same person also was aggressive and violent, not to mention unable to think coherently most of the time.

Example 2: One smoker I knew became a smoker, and a week later started stealing from people that were his supposed friends. A few weeks later he wound up molesting multiple children and then being sent to jail. Every so often he'd show up in the news as having molested/stolen again.

Example 3: One smoker I knew became extremely violent and stole from people, including mugging one person. He attempted to rape one teenage girl and was finally sent to jail.


So is there something in the "cig's"? Some sort of chemical or drug that is pretty much disabling any ability to make a choice that isn't idiotic?

Until that last sentence I wasn't too sure if you were talking about tobacco or weed.

I say that is entirely random, that a non-smoker is just as likely to be an asshole and rob you as a smoker is. Or beat you up for that matter etc.

I don't think smoking makes you do violent/illegal things, necessarily. I've known many smokers who are very laid back and wouldn't dare do anything like that. Smoking just makes you smelly, unappealing, and prone to cancer. No biggie.

I would have to agree with Lillith and anti on this one. Almost everyone i have known in my life either is, or was a smoker, including myself .... none of them were violent, or any different from the non-smokers that i have known..... well they smelled bad, one reason why i quit.

maybe it is'nt that smoking makes you have bad choices as much as people who generally make bad choices smoke?

Well everybody in my family smokes. But none of us make bad choices and I don't think that it's the smoking thing that causes people to be violent and such. It has to do with how they were raised as a child in order to become violent people. Smoking has nothing to do with peoples actions.

Smoking isn't a drug. Cause if smoking were to be a drug then how come they would be selling it in stores?

No, smoking has no effect on the choices one makes save the choice to smoke and accept any repercussions for the action. In a situation like that it really only has to do with the individual making the choices and if they are very good at it. In some cases smoking is the only "bad choice" the person will ever make.

Yeah I wished I've never started smoking to begin with. Oh well i'm the idiot.

Don't feel bad I smoke as well. Can't say it's ever made me want to molest children though. In fact cigs help me stay calm in stressful situations which is why I smoke so much. I'm a very stressed person.

I think those people just end up smoking but I don't think it's the cigs themselves. I do need to quit though...

I Quit

i smoke and i find it calms me down hang of alot when im stressed. i have never heard of people who started smoking then being violent or nething unless they were smoking summit illegal

i'll admit...i started smoking on the weekends with friends. i'm not very proud of myself for it either. i only like cloves though, regular cigs taste bad.

Yeah I regreat smoking my self. But it is up to the indivisual if he or she wants to stop smoking if they are not proud of it Silverflame.

Yeah I do understand that being stressed and smoking will calm you down though. Smoking doesn't make me want to molest children either. Besides when I get a bad feeling heading my way and I end up freaking out about it. I'll have a smoke and listen to music. Then i'm calm.

I definatley don't think that smoking alters the coices that I make in life, not at all. But, to the idea of someone going through surgery because of smoking and continuing; well that just shows how addictive it can be really.
I used to smoke heavily, but I've been cutting down lately. I find that they mostly just calm me down when I need it.

the only thing smoking makes you do is smoke more.

smoking can lead to some bad decisions by some

Example= a kid in school needs a smoke but isnt allowed to smoke in school and if they get caught smoking in the bathroom theres a susupension, so what do they do? leave school and smoke a cigarette.. nothing more stressful than 6 hours of school feening for a smoke....


and many a time ive found that if i only had a couple bucks to last me all weekend there came time for a decision.. get some food which will fill me for a few hours and use all my money or buy a pack of smokes that will last me all day and some of the next .. usually its buy the cigarettes than go to someones house for food.. : )

No smoking dosent lead to bad choices, not thinking leads to bad choices.
I mean there is NO social advantages of smoking, much less any advantages of smoking.
If anyone took the time to anaylize that ciggerate offerd to them when they were 13 as did I they would realize that...
1. Smoking is bad for your health
2. Smoking costs money and alot at that
3. Smoking makes you smell bad
4. Smoking makes your teeth yellow
5. Smoking makes you sickly and skinny witch to most is pretty unattractive

Wait there is one cool thing.
1. You are a "Rebel" if you are underaged.

If you cannot on the spot figure out that is a dumb thing to do (Smoke) then you have one of 2 things
1. A problem with peer pressure
2. A problem with makeing choices

The 2 problems listed above can cause you to make bad choices, if you dont have these problems then you probially dont smoke.
I am not saying that there are some exceptions that smoke just beacuse there daddy did and his daddy did and they never even thought about it. I am just saying that those are probially the 2 most common reasons.

Ya know just about everyone knows all this yet we still smoke.

This one always erked me a bit. I started at 16 but never thought it was cool. Of course many kids do like to smoke because they think it makes them look older and more mature. Kind of sad when you think about it. What part of smoking is cool?

Honestly my thing was neither of those. I do have problems with making choices but that wasn't one. When I was a kid all my life since my mother worked and I didn't have a father (I'm a bastard kid) my grandmother had to watch me all day, then when school started, after school so I spent most of my time with her and she smoked all the time so I was constantly around it. I always came home smelling like it and everything because she did it when she picked me up in the car and when I was at her house so I was always inhaling it.

When I turned 16 a friend of mine when at his house offered me one. I took it and started smoking directly. 4 years ago my grandmother died of emphazima (sp?) from smoking. Didn't stop me and my mother sitll doesn't know (I'm 19 soon to be 20). Actually I've pretty much quit. Occasionally I'll smoke a black n mild which will last me 3 days and when I go to a local goth club one day a week I'll bum a few cigs of people there but I'm trying to quit if not to save my mother from loosing someone else close to her from smoking.

Now to fix the rest of my problems in my life. Eh after a while I really started smoking just because I wanted to die and was to chicken to do it quickly so I decided on a slow way and while that idea still sticks with me it is expensive and annoying. I'll find a better way to take myself out. Or not.

Eh but mainly I'd smoke when I was really upset or bored. During the problems with my gf I smoked a lot because It'd get so upset and it was either smoke or cut myself and for some reason smoking won out. Well enough from me that's my story. ^_^

I said that there were exceptions, I didnt word it right thow.
Most of the people I know who smoke are just downright stupid.