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bio diesel - 05-05-06

this is something, that could be usable...there are a handful of gas stations that carry it...but it's higher than standard diesel, even with my father in law developing a switch for the two tanks of a diesel truck to mix both fuels, resulting in more mileage...

it's cleaner running, easier to produce, and the source...soybeans are most definitly...reusable.

those who choose to carry or use it, do qualify for certain tax breaks and credits...but why is this fuel so slow in catching on?

if more truckers had this option, perhaps there'd be no concerns that they won't be able to afford to run, any longer, but as it stands, with only three stations across the state of montana carrying it, it's not yet feasible...i don't think america is ready to let go of it's addiction to fossil fuels, the options are out there, the government says they are pursuing other options, but surely the oil companies aren't that...powerful?



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Back during the whole Hurricane Katrina mess, I figured they should just kill two (actually three) birds with one stone. They had a whole bunch of homeless, displaced New Orleanians who were going as far afield as my neck of the woods. What they should have done was form them into work teams and send them through the south cutting down kudzu, which could then be transported to biodiesel plants and converted to fuel. Then pay them a living wage with FEMA money. 1) Aid to hurricane victims 2) Kudzu cleared out 3) Biodiesel fuel stock increased

They could still do that...only without the hurricane victims I suppose.


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05-05-06

Bio Diesel isn't really feasible in the whole scope, if a small percentage of people use it, then we'll be ok, but if it became a main fuel source, we would have problems. There simply aren't enough farmers.


  
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Could we not create more farmers? I would worry more about resources. If something is well organised enough, then you wouldn't need a lot of people to work the land. Machines could do it right? Machines that run on soy beans!


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Could we not create more farmers? I would worry more about resources. If something is well organised enough, then you wouldn't need a lot of people to work the land. Machines could do it right? Machines that run on soy beans!
too many farmers are having to sell their lands...it's almost heartbreaking to watch it all go to subdivisions and apartment complexes.

what about hemp, i hear the possiblities for that fiber are, limitless?



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Could we not create more farmers? I would worry more about resources. If something is well organised enough, then you wouldn't need a lot of people to work the land. Machines could do it right? Machines that run on soy beans!
Where are you going to get the millions of acres of land? Unless we should chop down Yellowstone... wait I got it lets just drill in Alaska.
  
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too many farmers are having to sell their lands...it's almost heartbreaking to watch it all go to subdivisions and apartment complexes.

what about hemp, i hear the possiblities for that fiber are, limitless?
Thats just what stinky stoners want you to think..

What I am wondering though is what the hell were the Nazis using in WW2, they had an completely synthetic fuel source supposedly. Maybe they were burning humans in thier tanks?
  
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Thats just what stinky stoners want you to think..

What I am wondering though is what the hell were the Nazis using in WW2, they had an completely synthetic fuel source supposedly. Maybe they were burning humans in thier tanks?

not all humans, only the genetically inferior...

biodiesal, would help....but unless all cars were converted to diesel engins, our little gas efficient neon would be pretty much, pointless...

water pumps!?

design an engine based on that design...fill it with water, let the spinning wheel start power to the car, as it heats up, the steam expands and sustains it...

it works for dams...most of our electricity comes from dams...and that's one of our lower bills!

even in winter time...



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Bio-deisel is not econmicaly fesiable.

It looks great right now because demand for the product is so low. Up demand a small fraction and the price goes up. At that point the Bio Deisel manufactures will get sued for being corrupt you know because those comapnies made some money


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not all humans, only the genetically inferior...

biodiesal, would help....but unless all cars were converted to diesel engins, our little gas efficient neon would be pretty much, pointless...

water pumps!?

design an engine based on that design...fill it with water, let the spinning wheel start power to the car, as it heats up, the steam expands and sustains it...

it works for dams...most of our electricity comes from dams...and that's one of our lower bills!

even in winter time...
have you heard of entropy or any of newtons laws?


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not all humans, only the genetically inferior...

biodiesal, would help....but unless all cars were converted to diesel engins, our little gas efficient neon would be pretty much, pointless...

water pumps!?

design an engine based on that design...fill it with water, let the spinning wheel start power to the car, as it heats up, the steam expands and sustains it...

it works for dams...most of our electricity comes from dams...and that's one of our lower bills!

even in winter time...

Solar, wind, water power = inferior.

If we had every inch of the USA rigged with solar panels, corn and wheat fields, hydro dams and windmills we still wouldnt have enough to meet the demand to keep our current standard of living.

The only thing we got in our arsenal is nuclear power and even then we would have to build 10s of 1000s of plants to keep us up to snuff, lets see if the loony libs will let that happen though. Instead they will pass initutives to keep us from using nuclear power and stop us from drilling more oil and keep us dependant on thier hero and idles in the middle east.
  
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Bio-deisel is not econmicaly fesiable.

It looks great right now because demand for the product is so low. Up demand a small fraction and the price goes up. At that point the Bio Deisel manufactures will get sued for being corrupt you know because those comapnies made some money
OMG THEY MADE 30 Cents off of every gallon!!!! NOOOOO!!!!!
  
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OMG THEY MADE 30 Cents off of every gallon!!!! NOOOOO!!!!!
I know right its like a bunch of people woke up and realized that they live in a capitilist country and completely flipped out. I wonder if the stock holders of publicly traded exxon mobil are pissed because there shares went up in value. to point out one more thing for the people that think its a wild consiperacy and the gas companies are some evil empire because they have high profits guess what happens to a company and there exes when they fail to meet the same expectations. It is actualy better for a company to have steady income not fluctuating or record profits. And take a look at what futures are and you will understand why they had record profits. Its not some master plain or an evil empire. Darth Vader is not the ceo of anyone of these companies if you believe any of that nonsense you are living in a galaxy far far away.


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I know right its like a bunch of people woke up and realized that they live in a capitilist country and completely flipped out. I wonder if the stock holders of publicly traded exxon mobil are pissed because there shares went up in value. to point out one more thing for the people that think its a wild consiperacy and the gas companies are some evil empire because they have high profits guess what happens to a company and there exes when they fail to meet the same expectations. It is actualy better for a company to have steady income not fluctuating or record profits. And take a look at what futures are and you will understand why they had record profits. Its not some master plain or an evil empire. Darth Vader is not the ceo of anyone of these companies if you believe any of that nonsense you are living in a galaxy far far away.
I read a kickass article by Thomas Sowell and he mentioned that an oil exec could make 1 dollar a year (some execs actually do this) and it wouldnt effect the price of oil in the least because oil prices are regulated by.... get this. SUPPLY AND DEMAND.
  
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Unless you want to talk about the taxes on it, I pay 30cents per gallon in taxes in CT the oil companies on average take around 30 cents per gallon in profit... theyre actually making as much as the government off thier own product.
  
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