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Originally Posted by masochist What is WRONG with you??
I don't believe in the fear the is instilled into people to make them think that guns are needed. It's ridiculous. |
First of all, coming from the chick that said "I don't know why you Americans are so hung up on 9/11. It's not like it killed that many people", your opinions on what constitutes fair, lawful, ethical, moral, or needful are not the most credible.
Second of all, "the fear", as you call it, isn't unfounded. People kill people. They always have. They always will. And as people get more and more powerful in their hatred of who-knows-what, so the weapons must get more and more powerful. Guns are needed until the human race somehow throws off their inherent evil and suddenly becomes full of happy tree-huggers.
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Originally Posted by Tainted Soul The thing is that the fear is real. Over the summer, a 5 year old boy was killed by his grandmother less than a mile from my house. 2 attempted kidnappings within 5 miles of my house in the last couple weeks. And I don't even live in a bad part of town.
If people think that everyone is great and you don't have to worry, you're in for a rude awakening. | Are you implying that all 5 year old boys need should equip themselves with guns to protect themselves against their grandmothers and that a gun would stop attempted kidnappings? The kidnappings failed...is that because they had a gun?
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Originally Posted by Wicked Lady First of all, coming from the chick that said "I don't know why you Americans are so hung up on 9/11. It's not like it killed that many people", your opinions on what constitutes fair, lawful, ethical, moral, or needful are not the most credible. | People die every day, thousands of people. I just don't get why 9/11 is the most special day. There are terrorist attacks daily all over the world. I just get the feeling that America has a "poor me" complex. have you seen my marbles? | |
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Because it doesn't happen in America. Its never happened in America. That's why it's special. Because we tend to get our feelings hurt when someone kills a lot of our people at once.
And exactly how do you think that we are going to be able to take all the illegal guns off the street? Not to mention, there are people who own guns strictly for sport shooting, should they not be allowed to pursue their hobby because of your irrational fear? Cars kill a SHIT TON more people than guns, should we take cars off the road too? Can you form a logical argument as to why you should take away our rights other than "guns are the center of all evil, and crime will stop without them".
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Originally Posted by masochist People die every day, thousands of people. I just don't get why 9/11 is the most special day. There are terrorist attacks daily all over the world. I just get the feeling that America has a "poor me" complex. |
Of course. Like Billy said, terrorist-hijacked airplanes fly into skyscrapers in major metropolitan cities, killing a couple thousand men, women, and children all the time. Why should we mourn that? I mean.. fuck. Who cares about those bitches, anyway.
For that matter, why are we still mourning the people that died at Pearl Harbor? WE SHOULD JUST TEAR DOWN THE VIETNAM MEMORIAL WALL. Furthermore, let's bulldoze Arlington Cemetary and build a Wal-Mart. Christ Almighty... what's wrong with you, masochist?
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Originally Posted by masochist People die every day, thousands of people. I just don't get why 9/11 is the most special day. There are terrorist attacks daily all over the world. I just get the feeling that America has a "poor me" complex. | That has to be the most callous remark I have ever seen from anyone for quite awhile. I take it you store your human compassion in a bucket inside a walk-in freezer?? To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. S.O.D. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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Ya Know, i don't own any guns. But i agree with the right to own them..
Hell, my son doesn't see the use in them really.. But he still wants me to take him shooting so he knows what they are, and how to use them properly...
Does that make him one of those idiot gun owners? or one of those drunk hunters? Or even one of those criminals that use guns in violent crimes? NO, But it makes him have an understanding. He'll KNOW what a bullet can do to a stack of phonebooks. And inso, will understand just what a bullet could do to him, or anyone else that got hit by one..
he won't be ignorant about guns and what they can do.. That will make him smarter if confronted by one..
ps.. I do not in any way contend that all gun owners fall into the above-mentioned catagories. Beware the ex's.. They ARE out to get you... Nice guys finish last It isn't just a saying.. It's a fact of life! Those things that produced your ex......you know, the bitchmakers! Metagion | |
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Originally Posted by masochist Are you implying that all 5 year old boys need should equip themselves with guns to protect themselves against their grandmothers and that a gun would stop attempted kidnappings? The kidnappings failed...is that because they had a gun?
I think people think they need guns because people around them have guns. If you don't have a gun, and I don't have a gun, then we wouldn't need guns. Yes, I am actually naive enough to believe that. |
well i can tell you that in the abcence of fire arms there will still be violence. here in Canada owning a fire arm is a nightmare of bulshit government logistics made to discriminate against a specific group ( white rural males) . ANy way the big problem in my city is knife attacks. no guns available well ill go to the mall and get a knife, however recently some gangs have began shooting eachother with what Im positive are fully registered and legally aquired firearms ... oh wait that is rediculous to the point of being offensive! . violence is a human condition and one we all have to live with. Now we can let our naivety leave us blind to the fact, we can be glad we live in a realtively safe part of the world ( although there are some areas of some US or mexican cites you could not pay me to go to..) we can let our fear rule us and turn us into paraniod gun cooks ( it happens) | |
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Originally Posted by Wicked Lady Of course. Like Billy said, terrorist-hijacked airplanes fly into skyscrapers in major metropolitan cities, killing a couple thousand men, women, and children all the time. Why should we mourn that? I mean.. fuck. Who cares about those bitches, anyway.
For that matter, why are we still mourning the people that died at Pearl Harbor? WE SHOULD JUST TEAR DOWN THE VIETNAM MEMORIAL WALL. Furthermore, let's bulldoze Arlington Cemetary and build a Wal-Mart. Christ Almighty... what's wrong with you, masochist?
If someone invaded your country and blew up a few thousand innocent people, I bet you'd be a little upset. | I would be upset. But I wouldn't expect the WHOLE WORLD to be upset and have periods of silence every anniversary. People here do mark the the occasion, and most people here have never been to the states. American media has influenced the rest of the world to the point where "we" feel like "we" feel obliged to live like they do. (note "we" means my locals, not me). have you seen my marbles? | |
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Originally Posted by Dyshade That has to be the most callous remark I have ever seen from anyone for quite awhile. I take it you store your human compassion in a bucket inside a walk-in freezer?? | I believe in justice and equality for all that suffer, not special treatment for media rich nations. If that means that I am less compassionate... have you seen my marbles? | |
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No one here forced you to bow your head in silence. And to my knowledge, America has never aimed a nuke at your country and said "remember or else".
If your own sense of compassion and/or guilt allows for you to feel something, that's great. If not, that's fine. I stand by my judgement that you're a heartless shitbag. In Memory of the Busby Babes :
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lol, no one forces me to be quiet, but I'm not one to chat away during reserved moments of silence. And of course American hasn't aimed nukes at my country, why would they? We're too peaceful...and anti nukes. have you seen my marbles? | |
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Originally Posted by masochist I would be upset. But I wouldn't expect the WHOLE WORLD to be upset and have periods of silence every anniversary. People here do mark the the occasion, and most people here have never been to the states. American media has influenced the rest of the world to the point where "we" feel like "we" feel obliged to live like they do. (note "we" means my locals, not me). |
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