every body is entitled to their own oppinion as long as it isnt hurting others. im happy to let bygons be bygons on most subjects. however i dont consider animal cruelty or vegetarianism/veganism as something we can all joke about. it's serious to me and those i know and love. i let people discuss whatever they want in my class as long as they dont suddenly start a fight.....but when someone starts about animal rights/vege/vegan, if they want to discuss it like adults im all for it, however many who do choose to do so respond nastily and simply want to have a go....i wont stand for it, nor would i tolerate some one taking the chance to offend others....be nasty over their choice of fiath or about disability. it simply shows them up for being the nasty people they are.

i actually started many of these debates with DS because.....with his hostile nature, he said everyone on darkforum was too stupid to understand him. not once have i been hostile back to him despite Dyshade having to warn him not to insult.

no need to go into explanitions, if i care to read his work i can always look it up.....but then im not one for froid either. it's good to read others, their belifs and why they do what they do....but they are no more important than what drives everyone else.....simple academia or publication doesnt, in my oppinion warrent their importance.

"i actually started many of these debates with DS because.....with his hostile nature, he said everyone on darkforum was too stupid to understand him."

prove to me when i said that!
what do they call it when you do what you are doing....thats right Defamation!
stop trying to run me down!

and as for your comment "i don't have an ego"
bullshit man youv'e been thinking of yourself as higher than me ever since i've started talking to you! :argue:

well i can ask you to prove it too, in fact since weve been debating on various threads through out the occult forum i have said i wasnt any better or smarter than you....gee whats your problem if you carnt actually hold a discusstion without asserting yourself in snide comments ala the past. in fact when was it..near teh first time i met you...i think in the good and bad thread, or maybe the body stealing one....when you clearly said that none of us could grasp your comments or beliefs, if you want to be quated that badly ill happliy nip back and find it for you, but i bet that wouldnd resolve anything.

probably not.
but you have been thinking of yourself as higher than me ever since we started talking.
all that stuff about killing me without a thought, or snapping my neck with a twitch of your hand and all that other bullshit. geeze you think you'd your the savior of humanity or somthing..........

Not cows, we would merely all be submissive. But that behaviour is not rewarded, not in nature nor in human society. An ego, if finely tuned... will grant one status... An over-ego will merely make one look like the fool that one is.
There's an actor in all of us.

NOT ONCE have i said i was smarter or better than you DS. if you assume, as you were so angry at me for doing in another thread, if you assume i am thinking so theres nothing i can do about that, if you wont take my word that i have never been thinking or acting as your better..what am i to do, thats your prob.

as to combat...in my oppinion thats a fact of life, the same way in combat i wouldnt want to go up against Mike Tisen not because he's a great fighter....simply because he's a beast, a crazed out of control animal, or as the norse prefferd them, a biserker. theres not much that could save you from taking on that guy simply because he would carry on, hence your only chance is to kill him quickly however you hope to do it....thats a reality, no differnt fro if you know your great at football and would leave me in teh mud, or if your a great artist and others arent.

no im not the saviour...but i do the best in the path i walk.

nice one Ae

yes you may do the best in the path you walk
but remember there is always someone better than you!
ok i'll accept that you don't think your better than me.

but in what way better than me. while i do try to minimise the pain i inflict on the world there are others who hunt and torture and kill for no reason than they can. is a goody worth more, or better than a villian.....or are they simply equal. i tend to take the veiw that they are equal......despite the fact that all men are not born so, but equal rights should exist. theres no one better than me....and despite how much they murder and rape theres no one below me

but it's you whose judging them...on your morals and opinions that they may view as being inferior...

there's a wisdom with this statement, once you accept it, than you are indeed on your path to a more...enlightening existance...this is a good mantra for people who truly want peace in their souls, rather than make the world to their...liking.

Desiderata

Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
and remember what peace there may be in silence.
As far as possible without surrender
be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
and listen to others,
even the dull and the ignorant;
they too have their story.

Avoid loud and aggressive persons,
they are vexations to the spirit.
If you compare yourself with others,
you may become vain and bitter;
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.


Keep interested in your own career, however humble;
it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs;
for the world is full of trickery.
But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
many persons strive for high ideals;
and everywhere life is full of heroism.


Be yourself.
Especially, do not feign affection.
Neither be cynical about love;
for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment
it is as perennial as the grass.


Take kindly the counsel of the years,
gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.
But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
Beyond a wholesome discipline,
be gentle with yourself.


You are a child of the universe,
no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you,
no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.


Therefore be at peace with God,
whatever you conceive Him to be,
and whatever your labors and aspirations,
in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.


With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
it is still a beautiful world.
Be cheerful.
Strive to be happy.


Max Ehrmann, Desiderata, Copyright 1952.

As The Prophet wrote:

The earth is Hell, and man has made it so.

Of course it's your choice: faith or fear.

i'm a good person, why should i fear dying?

but is earth hell?? to think that there might be somewhere worse than here is......disturbing

The earth is Hell, and man has made it so.


???????


I thought that hell was supposed to be a bad place.

what and the earth isnt?

and by the way your baby looks realy cute! but i pity you when the teenage years come )

that would depend on the person, and their version of hell

true

Life here is in general no worse than you make it. We can't expect to have perfect lives, but most of us can learn to find happiness with what we have. Obstacles makes you stronger.

no experience is bad because every experience teaches you

only if a person recognizes them for the teachers they are...too many people seem to dwell on the negative aspects of stagnation...blinding themselves to the lessons...that will free the dammed waters and let the enlightenment burst through like the sun creeping from beneath majestic mountains.