Darkforum.com - Dark Stories, Dark Art, Poetry, Photography, Debates and Discussions
Home Register FAQ
Go Back   Darkforum.com - Dark Stories, Dark Art, Poetry, Photography, Debates and Discussions > Discussions > Serious Discussion
Reload this Page Who's the whore?
Serious Discussion Discuss Who's the whore? in the Discussions forums; not me silly men...but her! She is clearly identified as a "CITY" (not a nation or country) ten (10) times in Revelation 14, 16, 17 and 18. ...

Register and remove some of the ads
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  (#1) Old
Jordyn is Offline
paraphiliac
Jordyn is on a distinguished road
 
Jordyn's Avatar
 
Posts: 24,202
Gallery: 4
Comments: 3
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: the Big Sky Country
Zodiac Sign: Leo
Rating: 2 Votes / 5.00 Average
Credits: 802,386
   
Who's the whore? - 01-23-04

not me silly men...but her!

She is clearly identified as a "CITY" (not a nation or country) ten (10) times in Revelation 14, 16, 17 and 18. Her location, as a CITY, is obvious to anyone who understands history. Therefore she is a CITY that:

1) has a Christian religious heritage,
2) is waxed exceedingly rich,
has the blood of Saints and Martyrs on her hands,
4) has tremendous religious influence throughout the world,
5) is clothed in purple and scarlet,
6) is located near the Mediterranean Sea,
7) is full of abominations, primarily idols,
8) is heavily adorned with gold and jewels,
9) is primarily represented by a woman instead of Jesus Christ,
10) is carrying a golden chalice, significant to her identity,
11) influences world political leaders because of her religious power,
12) sits on seven mountains or hills.

http://www.tribulation.com/prtwoman.htm

with all the gloriously knowledgable minds here, anyone care to take a guess,is this a place, or something more figurative?



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by Shadowborn : 01-23-04 at 13:56. Reason: Correcting grammar in the title
  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!
Reply With Quote
  (#2) Old
John Preston is Offline
Listen
John Preston is on a distinguished road
 
John Preston's Avatar
 
Posts: 7,395
Gallery: 0
Comments: 0
Join Date: Sep 2000
Rating: Not Rated
Credits: 256,181
   
01-23-04

If it wasn't for that located near the sea and on seven mountains/hills I'd say you got drunk


(\ /)
(O.o)
(> <)
This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination
  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!
Reply With Quote
  (#3) Old
Jordyn is Offline
paraphiliac
Jordyn is on a distinguished road
 
Jordyn's Avatar
 
Posts: 24,202
Gallery: 4
Comments: 3
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: the Big Sky Country
Zodiac Sign: Leo
Rating: 2 Votes / 5.00 Average
Credits: 802,386
   
01-23-04

"influences world political leaders because of her religious power,"

...if only i were drunk



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!
Reply With Quote
  (#4) Old
John Preston is Offline
Listen
John Preston is on a distinguished road
 
John Preston's Avatar
 
Posts: 7,395
Gallery: 0
Comments: 0
Join Date: Sep 2000
Rating: Not Rated
Credits: 256,181
   
01-23-04

Virgin Mary would have enough of an influence because of her religious power


(\ /)
(O.o)
(> <)
This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination
  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!
Reply With Quote
  (#5) Old
Shadowborn is Offline
Grand Master Geek
Shadowborn is on a distinguished road
 
Shadowborn's Avatar
 
Posts: 10,118
Gallery: 0
Comments: 0
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Spokane, Wa
Zodiac Sign: Aries
Rating: 1 Votes / 5.00 Average
Credits: 238,265
   
I'll take "Religious Prophecy" for $500, Alex... - 01-23-04

What is Vatican City?


Shadowborn
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


I feel this way on DF...a lot.
  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!
Reply With Quote
  (#6) Old
Qoji is Offline
Dark Q
Qoji is on a distinguished road
 
Qoji's Avatar
 
Posts: 4,440
Gallery: 0
Comments: 0
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: The Dark Continuum
Zodiac Sign: Virgo
Rating: Not Rated
Credits: 78,659
   
01-23-04

Dang, I may just have to convert to witchcraft
  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!
Reply With Quote
  (#7) Old
Oazaki is Offline
Hiko Seijuro
Oazaki is an unknown quantity at this point
 
Oazaki's Avatar
 
Posts: 307
Gallery: 0
Comments: 0
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Everywhere
Zodiac Sign: Capricorn
Rating: Not Rated
Credits: 44,754
   
01-23-04

y'all need to think more metaphorical on this one peoples...

all the best,
Oazaki.


Azrael ibn Shaitan.
  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!
Reply With Quote
  (#8) Old
Oazaki is Offline
Hiko Seijuro
Oazaki is an unknown quantity at this point
 
Oazaki's Avatar
 
Posts: 307
Gallery: 0
Comments: 0
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Everywhere
Zodiac Sign: Capricorn
Rating: Not Rated
Credits: 44,754
   
01-23-04

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordyn
not me silly men...but her!
curses!!! foiled again!!! and here i was hoping to do things the easy way...



all the best jordyn,
Oazaki.


Azrael ibn Shaitan.
  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!
Reply With Quote
  (#9) Old
Guy_Person is Offline
Unvested Dandy
Guy_Person is on a distinguished road
 
Guy_Person's Avatar
 
Posts: 4,849
Gallery: 0
Comments: 0
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Isn't she just like certain people I could name?
Zodiac Sign: Gemini
Rating: Not Rated
Credits: 119,576
   
01-23-04

*agrees with Shadowborn* Yeah, it's undoubtedly Rome.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!
Reply With Quote
  (#10) Old
Jordyn is Offline
paraphiliac
Jordyn is on a distinguished road
 
Jordyn's Avatar
 
Posts: 24,202
Gallery: 4
Comments: 3
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: the Big Sky Country
Zodiac Sign: Leo
Rating: 2 Votes / 5.00 Average
Credits: 802,386
   
01-24-04

i'm thinking it's america...



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!
Reply With Quote
  (#11) Old
RedMeat is Offline
Sweet Zombie Jesus
RedMeat will become famous soon enoughRedMeat will become famous soon enough
 
RedMeat's Avatar
 
Posts: 28,446
Gallery: 0
Comments: 0
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: On the fringe
Rating: Not Rated
Credits: 311,125
   
01-24-04

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordyn
6) is located near the Mediterranean Sea,
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordyn
i'm thinking it's america...
I`m going to have to give you a F in geography.


Work is of two kinds: first, altering the position of matter at or near the earth's surface relatively to other such matter; second, telling other people to do so.

Darkness squeezes, Satan`s platypus rises tonight! Bork, bork, bork!
  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!
Reply With Quote
  (#12) Old
Jordyn is Offline
paraphiliac
Jordyn is on a distinguished road
 
Jordyn's Avatar
 
Posts: 24,202
Gallery: 4
Comments: 3
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: the Big Sky Country
Zodiac Sign: Leo
Rating: 2 Votes / 5.00 Average
Credits: 802,386
   
01-24-04

actually i found the actual passage, and it says...sits on many waters... i'll explain a little more clearly

america has fornicated with many worldly powers, the statue of liberty is often times the first thing that represents america, many people are "enflamed" by the most recent fornications against iraq...it's no doubt that we have many rich...and it was founded mainly by those escaping religious persecution from england...leaving us connected to royalty...and who isn't persecuted these days over here? I realized that the list says it's on the mediterrerian sea, however this one says it sits on many waters...how many oceans and gulfs surround the continent, and look at how many "idols" are placed before jesus? (rockstars, movie stars, oscars, television...etc.)

here's the actual passage...

Revelations 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

Revelations 17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

Revelations 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

Revelations 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

Revelations 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Revelations 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

Revelations 17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

Revelations 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

Revelations 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

Revelations 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

Revelations 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

Revelations 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

Revelations 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

Revelations 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Revelations 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

Revelations 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

Revelations 17:17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

Revelations 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
http://www.prophecy.worthyofpraise.o...lations17.html

it was reading this that made me think of it being america...a lot of people favor rome, but that just seems too obvious. here's another link that made me doubt the rome concept... http://www.catholic.com/library/Whore_of_Babylon.asp




To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!
Reply With Quote
  (#13) Old
Axantha is Offline
peripheral visionary
Axantha is on a distinguished road
 
Axantha's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,419
Gallery: 1
Comments: 0
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Yellowstone
Zodiac Sign: Virgo
Rating: Not Rated
Credits: 84,356
   
01-24-04

the whore is babylon


Pain is Nature's way of saying "At least your still alive!"

That which does not kill us hurts like hell.
  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!
Reply With Quote
  (#14) Old
Jordyn is Offline
paraphiliac
Jordyn is on a distinguished road
 
Jordyn's Avatar
 
Posts: 24,202
Gallery: 4
Comments: 3
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: the Big Sky Country
Zodiac Sign: Leo
Rating: 2 Votes / 5.00 Average
Credits: 802,386
   
01-24-04

that would be iraq...i believe...babylon doesn't technically exist anymore. if it is the iraqian area, how so?



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!
Reply With Quote
  (#15) Old
Shadowborn is Offline
Grand Master Geek
Shadowborn is on a distinguished road
 
Shadowborn's Avatar
 
Posts: 10,118
Gallery: 0
Comments: 0
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Spokane, Wa
Zodiac Sign: Aries
Rating: 1 Votes / 5.00 Average
Credits: 238,265
   
01-24-04

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordyn
i'm thinking it's america...
Quote:
6) is located near the Mediterranean Sea


Shadowborn
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


I feel this way on DF...a lot.
  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!
Reply With Quote
  (#16) Old
John Preston is Offline
Listen
John Preston is on a distinguished road
 
John Preston's Avatar
 
Posts: 7,395
Gallery: 0
Comments: 0
Join Date: Sep 2000
Rating: Not Rated
Credits: 256,181
   
01-25-04

That sounds like one sick(as in bad) place...
All that sitting on a scarlet blah and such sounds like it deals with a city founded on blood.


(\ /)
(O.o)
(> <)
This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination
  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!
Reply With Quote
  (#17) Old
Axantha is Offline
peripheral visionary
Axantha is on a distinguished road
 
Axantha's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,419
Gallery: 1
Comments: 0
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Yellowstone
Zodiac Sign: Virgo
Rating: Not Rated
Credits: 84,356
   
01-25-04

Quote:
that would be iraq...i believe...babylon doesn't technically exist anymore. if it is the iraqian area, how so?
the original city of babylon is located in Iraq. Saddam was actually having sections of it renovated and rebuilt. He was planning on resurecting the entire city eventually.


Pain is Nature's way of saying "At least your still alive!"

That which does not kill us hurts like hell.
  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!
Reply With Quote
  (#18) Old
Jordyn is Offline
paraphiliac
Jordyn is on a distinguished road
 
Jordyn's Avatar
 
Posts: 24,202
Gallery: 4
Comments: 3
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: the Big Sky Country
Zodiac Sign: Leo
Rating: 2 Votes / 5.00 Average
Credits: 802,386
   
01-25-04

Revelations 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

jesus christ men, i posted the original text, it's many waters, not specified as the meditter...i hate spelling that sea!...

the specified mediterrerian is from a persons personal website, many people are trying to make it fit rome...as most of the countries that aren't liked are around there, naturally there are those that would "enhance" parts to make it fit more their theory...

here's the sight i got the original list from(not scripture but personal interpretation) http://www.tribulation.com/prtwoman.htm the actual passages do not mention the meditterarian sea...

i originally came across it just browsing and thought it'd be interesting, the more i'm discussing it, the more i'm finding this is actually ver fascinating...and learning more



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!
Reply With Quote
  (#19) Old
Jordyn is Offline
paraphiliac
Jordyn is on a distinguished road
 
Jordyn's Avatar
 
Posts: 24,202
Gallery: 4
Comments: 3
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: the Big Sky Country
Zodiac Sign: Leo
Rating: 2 Votes / 5.00 Average
Credits: 802,386
   
01-25-04

Quote:
Originally Posted by Axantha
the original city of babylon is located in Iraq. Saddam was actually having sections of it renovated and rebuilt. He was planning on resurecting the entire city eventually.

and just where are they going to fit any other requirement on the list other than being in the mediterrerian? which is really an insignificant point...it's many waters!

why and how do you think it'll be iraq?



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!
Reply With Quote
  (#20) Old
Axantha is Offline
peripheral visionary
Axantha is on a distinguished road
 
Axantha's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,419
Gallery: 1
Comments: 0
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Yellowstone
Zodiac Sign: Virgo
Rating: Not Rated
Credits: 84,356
   
01-25-04

I have always taken the Bible as a literal translation. Archelogy and historians are continuously finding information that supports everything the bible reported as factual history.

the prophesies made in the bible have been proven historically correct. So why not babylon?


Pain is Nature's way of saying "At least your still alive!"

That which does not kill us hurts like hell.