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10-23-06

Well I am wiccan because its more freedom... not to mention no need for a church. Also, I am a part of peoples lives... but more over I am in it because of the freedom and my role in it...


All worlds begin in darkness, and all so end. The Heart is no different, darkness sprouts within it, grows and consumes it. You see, darkness is the hearts true essense.
  
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10-23-06

Oy! Quadruple post!
  
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10-24-06

but that is alright. the quadruple post didn't hurt anyone. actually that was very talented.
  
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10-25-06

i was baptised into the catholic church but im a satanist. you can imagine how proud my family is. lol
  
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10-25-06

Do you claim to worship Satan, or are you an actual Satanist?


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10-25-06

I am a humble Hermetic Alchemist. Through self realization anyone can mold the lead in thier soul into golden bliss

The Seven Principles are what drew me to it.



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10-25-06

There are Seven Principles? That's why I haven't found Enlightenment!
  
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10-25-06

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There are Seven Principles? That's why I haven't found Enlightenment!

It is nice to see that you have developed a good sense of sarcasm. Now all you need to do is master it.



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10-25-06

*oh snap*


O divine art of subtlety and secrecy! Through you ... we can hold the enemy's fate in our hands. - Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heav'n. - Satan, Paradise Lost

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10-26-06

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fuckin' nihilist
People have told I'm a nihilist. Or Athiest...Do I really worry about it? Nope.

Do I believe in a Hell and Heaven? Nope


Will believing or disbelief in God, change the fact that I have to go to work today and tomorrow? Nope
  
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10-26-06

Hey, what the fuck do I care if you believe in God...I don't.

I just hate nihilists.


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10-26-06

why hate nihilists? what would you consider me... i have no idea, although there's something romantic in nihilism (although existentialism has that too...) you're the man, 666, tell me not only my humor type but my philosophical belief system as well. go!


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10-26-06

On a personal level: because I am an existentialist. And nihilism raped my philosophy and turned it into hogwash, and gave some of my favorite philosophers a bad rep. A lot of people associate Nietzsche with nihilism, and the funny thing is, Nietzsche warns us about being nihilists...although, being nihilistic has its justifications!

On a philosophical level: Existentialism and nihilism go hand in hand in a lot of arguments. Both have no belief in God. Both have no faith in morality. Both only warrant humanity's existence on a subjective level. But that's where they differ.

Existentialism (as you know) basically states that: the self of the individual is of the utmost importance. The importance of the self over-justifies the importance of all other aspects of life. There is no proof for God, there is no proof in an eternal morality, there is no proof in any other system, but there is a shred of proof that you do indeed exist. And as such, being "you" is the only truth that matters.

Nihilism: there is no God, there is no morality, there is no eternal truth, therefore, there is nothing! Any action humanity takes, it is pointless and hopeless. There is no value to one's self. Nothing matters.

Nihilism sounds pretty in theory and all, but it's obviously a contradiction (if there is no eternal truth...then how is Nihilism justified?). And what's worse, is that so many people throw the term around like they understand it, when in reality they just learned it from the movie The Big Lebowski..."I'm a nihilist! I believe in nothing! Not even nihilism!" You know what, nihilists do believe in science, materialism, revolution.

Like anarchy...people throw the term around without actually realizing that anarchy, in a political sense, isn't total chaos. If the governments around the world were to go bye-bye...what you would have is several thousand societies. People will find like individuals...punks, goths, rednecks, etc. etc. etc.

What's even more a kick in the face...why aren't there more philosophers who are nihilists? How do they go around proclaiming the objectivity of nothingness when...(as I always like to say) nothingness is an impossibility?


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10-26-06

hmmm... interesting.

why do you have to restrict what you believe in to what is justified? philosophically, yes, but religiously? nihilism could be a religion.

the problem like you say is proof, not of everything else but of the individual. of the self. i guess at that point it's all up to taste, whether you assume that you exist and thus truth is possible or whether you don't and it's impossible. existentialism sounds like the hopeful road, and nihilism the hopeless road. existentialism really only justifies itself, so its justification isn't real.. it's circular reasoning almost...

i'm not so sure nothingness is impossible, though i am fairly confident that something does exist. it may be that nothingness is beyond human understanding... i don't really know. still, that makes nihilism a religion.

do you think nihilism could be a religion?


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10-26-06

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nihilism could be a religion.
HAHAHAHAHAHA...right. I'll let you ponder that one for awhile...hahahaha...I'm seriously laughing here!


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10-26-06

i think it would make a good religion. think of all the time saved not praying, not going to church, not believing - in anything! damn, amazing.


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Perhaps, "master", you need to be reawakened to the concept of cheerful repartee. That is #4 of the true Six Principles.
  
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10-27-06

I had thought what I posted was quite cheerful; it gave me a smile

The seven principles are based on physics. It seems your "six principles" are based on bad humour and even worse breath

Ohoh.... you are beginning to tarnish my well oiled personality.... I am afraid I may have to embark on a mission to kill your corporeal self



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10-27-06

Seeing as you're a gun enthusiast, I may have to allow concern to penetrate the layers of the Onion of All-Encompassing Security, the state of being just before Enlightenment, which I mentioned I have not attained, having not known of the existence of this seventh Principle of which you speak.

Yes, the onion does impart unto one the Breath of Purification, which can smell unpleasant to the unholy; the Perpetual Tears of Gratitude are much worth the sacrifice, however.
  
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10-29-06

They're the Seven Hermetic Principles, right? I read up on 'em. Sound like just positive thinking stuff to me (with the requisite possibility of transcending this plane to become a Causer), but I'm guessing anyone's religion sounds like that to anyone else.
  
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