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09-14-06

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good point, but what i meant when i said unlimited power was that the individual is the absolute master of himself. sorry if i didn't explain myself very well, it's the one recurring thing in most of what i say...
Sorry for taking so long to get back to you (I hate it when I respond and then don't know if my partner in the conversation even got my response).

I still don't see how being an individualist makes you a satanist. Self-improvement is a great goal though.
  
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I still don't see how being an individualist makes you a satanist. Self-improvement is a great goal though.
Being an individual and doin what feels good, no matter what it is could classify someone as a satanist.
As far as I know, satanist believe in being happy above all else. So self improvement for happiness could fall into that area.



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Being an individual and doin what feels good, no matter what it is could classify someone as a satanist.
No, Satanists also believe in respect...

One of their "golden rules" or whatever is: When in someone's home, always respect them. When someone's in your home, be a gratious host (unless they don't respect you).

I don't think happiness is the only thing Satanists really care about...


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09-15-06

My question is: why satanist? Why not HappyandRespectfulist? The name doesn't follow from the description.
  
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09-15-06

Because Satan believes in himself more so than any other being...duh.


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09-17-06

Satan,satan,satan, what's all this talk about satan? Doesn't anybody get it yet? All very disillucioned. you've all been lied to from the begining...and nobody will leave this planet. Try some quantum physics, relativity, and true enlightenment...you'll realize you're living a hollywood production...vampires,warewolves,demons,angels,god,devil,easter rabbit,santa claus, zeus,harad, and the list goes on...
our deepest fear...is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. We ask ouselves, whom am i to be brilliant, gorgious, talented, and fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? We were born to make manifest the Glory of God that is within us. And as we let our light shine, we unconcsiously allow for others to do the same. Whatever, your belief make it true to oneself...the only thing dat will matter is your ability to melt away into your next stage of being without fear,doubt, or uncomfortabilty...otherwise you will either be sucked up by some other dominating force in the universe or you will repeat this damnation once again. PEACE&LUV!!!


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09-17-06

How very ignorant of you...


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09-19-06

relativity and quantum mechanichs the religous belifs of the scientific world. no conecting theory and no reliable proof oh how it gets fuzy on the fringe.

i wonder if you have heard of pandoras box


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09-24-06

yes...i am in quest of "Pandoras Box" in order to defeat Airies in "God of War"... and ignorance is bliss...thank you very much...it will be very hard to come to terms with such disappointment i realize this...butt in the end it will serve you well...no hard feelings...PEACE&LUV!!!


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09-25-06

um, i think i might have been misunderstood, but the main tenet of satanism as i understand it is being master of one's self, which means holding one's self accountable, improving one's self, and taking and giving credit where credit is due. it's really about believing in one's self. and i think that calling it satanism is really more a right of passage than a christian insinuation; in a judeo-christian society, the best example of pride and belief in one's self is satan, or lucifer before the fall. his confidence in being mightier than god, though it eventually led to his defeat, is a testament to his strength. the "satan" in satanism is more symbolic than anything. satanism's really more of a philosophy than a lot of religions, in that worship and religious spirituality play no part in it at all. i'd say that satanism is a religion of satisfaction more than of happiness.

btw i just realized what i'm trying to say has been said before, by milton... check my signature...


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i think that calling it satanism is really more a right of passage than a christian insinuation; in a judeo-christian society, the best example of pride and belief in one's self is satan, or lucifer before the fall. his confidence in being mightier than god, though it eventually led to his defeat, is a testament to his strength. the "satan" in satanism is more symbolic than anything.
Thanks for explaining that. You too, Sixer.

I still don't think it's necessary to call one's self a satanist in order to express self-confidence, but maybe that's just a slightly more extreme version of my choice to spend my time on a dark forum instead of Myspace or something.
  
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09-26-06

Lavey satanists are usually just homosexuals who actually have LOW self esteem but try to hide it with their bullshit religion. The cool satanists are the ones that kill virgins and shit for their dark lord.

Just kidding, anyone with any religion is pretty stupid.


  
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Just kidding, anyone with any religion is pretty stupid.
Thanks for showing us that enlightenment and caring belong to you who are intelligent enough to have thrown off the shackles of organized religion.
  
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Lavey satanists are usually just homosexuals who actually have LOW self esteem but try to hide it with their bullshit religion. The cool satanists are the ones that kill virgins and shit for their dark lord.

Just kidding, anyone with any religion is pretty stupid.
actually, you're right. religion is a dangerous thing. religion's like gasoline and foam peanuts. the trick is to do just enough of it to get a buzz without going through life shit-faced.

philosophy on the other hand is like a good beer. you can hit it your whole life and never get so drunk you miss life, but appreciate it in a special way that only a moderate detachment from reality (read: beer buzz) can induce.

on a side note, i think satanism in particular is more like a philosophy than a religion, although i'll admit the name makes you wonder.


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09-27-06

I'm a bit confused but I have a strangely solid grasp on something.
I was baptized Methodist but the idea of Jesus being my savior and the one almighty vengeful God just doesn't do it for me. If I had to pick I'd be Pagan-ish. Goddess, nature should be respected and worshiped, reincarnation (sorta - the energy is recycled not necessarily a 'soul'), just be good.
Someone once said I had a lot of characteristics of a deist but I’m not all that well versed in religions so I’m not sure. Oh well.


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actually, you're right. religion is a dangerous thing. religion's like gasoline and foam peanuts. the trick is to do just enough of it to get a buzz without going through life shit-faced.
How does one "do" foam peanuts?
  
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09-27-06

you have to dissolve them in the gasoline, silly.


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well, i'm currently not anything but i've actually been looking into chaos magic lately. yes i know, it sounds like some sort of lame larper thing but reading further into it, a lot of it already follows my basic beliefs about manipulating my circumstances to acheive a desired effect.

so far it's the only thing i've found that even comes close because it's something that you adapt to fit your beliefs, rather than vice versa.
Chaos magic is a very pragmatic facet of spirituality. Good luck!



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Religions are the physical manifestation of the spirituality/philosophy from the heart and mind of individuals. Whether this spirituality/philosophy is enlightened or not, that is beside the point.
As long as you have people with religions, you will find as much diversity as there are people.

Is diversity really a b