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Originally Posted by Guy_Person That's exactly what I said.... pay attention. Your religion is one of society-man, meaning you draw morals and meaning from the relationship between yourself and your society. Your morals are based on both how society should treat people and how "civilized" people ought to act. Your sacred reality is hard to articulate.. it is the abstract of self-civilization. Meaning you worship (knowingly or not) the perfect you and the perfect civilization and try to make them more real. | Again, you are obfuscating terms. Religion, in the defined sense is: The Dictionary Quote:
re·li·gion
n.
Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.
| I do not worship society, nor do I have any sort of illusion that there is a 'perfect' society. In fact, to be quite honest, I think morals are simply an artificial construct created by mankind in order to keep people civilized and controllable. In order to prevent anarchy, there have to be some basic laws that prevent people from treating each other in manners they themselves do not wish to be treated. There are some religions which do not believe even this "golden" rule. There are religions that disagree with a vast majority of 'rules' from other religions. I am under no allusions that there are morals or that I should live a certain way or have a purpose in life. | |
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So please tell me again, how atheism is a religion? | |
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Um..I'm like a billion diff things..not a billion..well..ya know what i mean.
I'm Catholic, Protestant, Episocopalian or however u spell that, um..about everything out that is Christian...I'm also Jewish, and Wiccan.
I'm all of these tings because of my mother, she got my first commuinion and stuff a few times...and I'm Jewish, by Jewish law..since my mother was Jewish.
I am a practicing God believer, and a Wtchcraft believer. But, I'll probably grow out of the witchcraft shortly...most my age do.
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n 1: someone who rejects all theories of morality or religious belief | Dammit Lobo... you need to hang out here more often..... I be missin you and your words here.....
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Originally Posted by Meatros So please tell me again, how atheism is a religion? | It isn't, I'm not going to keep repeating myself if you're assuming I'm saying something else. Reread everything I've said until you understand that belief in divinity is not required to be religious, as I define it.
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hmmm... perhaps in your opinion it is not.... yet when you profess a belief in the divine you are being religious.... professing a disbelief is not however....
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"If atheism is a religion than good health is a disease"
I forgot who said that. I'll take credit for it, though, if no one else remembers.
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Originally Posted by Dyshade hmmm... perhaps in your opinion it is not.... yet when you profess a belief in the divine you are being religious.... professing a disbelief is not however.... | Semantics cirlces! Woo! | |
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Originally Posted by Meatros So please tell me again, how atheism is a religion? | In the positive sense I am a secular humanist -- but I've got real sick of explaining what that means and so just say atheist. | |
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i am a shaman or a sorcerer. Pehaps a bit of an avatar.
Otherwise a luciferian, a recovering christian, gnostic, buddhist, I love
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Satanist.
You can look at it as a metaphor for the fleeting nature of human life, or just chalk it up to my being a sick, bloodthirsty monster. Either way, it's all the same.
I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person
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Originally Posted by frater luciferi Pehaps a bit of an avatar. |
While I a beg to expand the meaning of religion, i beg you to not misuse sacred words. I am guessing you are not an Avatar of Vishnu. Religion is not a sacred word so I feel nothing wrong with expanding its meaning. But if the sacred changes meaning, it is no longer sacred.
edit: maybe the word you're looking for is "devotee."
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so i take it your just like every other whiner?
You can look at it as a metaphor for the fleeting nature of human life, or just chalk it up to my being a sick, bloodthirsty monster. Either way, it's all the same.
I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person
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I am A Heretic...
For those of you who don't know what that is..let me explain....
I mock God..but I do not worship Satan...
I guess you could say I'm on the edge of satanism...but not there yet.
P.S. NO! this has nothing to do with Slipknot!
I am so fuckin tired of hearing that...
The sicker you get the better I feel.
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I am agnostic, more of an agnostic theist though.
Hoping for the best just hoping nothing happens
A thousand clever lines unread on clever napkins
I will never ask if you don't ever tell me
I know you well enough to know you never loved me
(why can't i feel anything for anyone other than you)
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Originally Posted by Putrid Jester I am A Heretic...
For those of you who don't know what that is..let me explain....
I mock God..but I do not worship Satan... |
Wait... you mock God... so you do believe in him, right?
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