What if God doesn't exist? I mean it could of been some guy who made everything up in the beginning and he made everyone believe him ... It can all be fake ...

I do believe in God, but these days it's kind of hard. Where is he? Why hasn't he helped us in some way ... ?

There is the free will option, not to mention, if you have a really twisted sense of humour.. We could just be its favorite soap opera, and/or interactive movie.... Maybe the biggest game of Solitare ever invented.

The only lie is that god is a male, he's a female...long live the goddess! and with all the destruction of nature she really hasn't had enough time or energy to intervene with our selfish stupidity, we are leaving her with enough of a mess...I'm sure once she is finished righting herself, she'll come and take care of us...hmmmmm...I don't think all people will like her methods...

what if? then the world will just continue the way it's always been. to me it's wishful thinking. man alone at the top of the world wanted something/one to aspire to to love and worship and *babing* god was born. not a bad thing, if it works for you. yeee.

God is neither male or female. He is what ever you believe he is. If you have problems trying to keep the faith then do what you feel is right. If God is not right for you, then please do not do something that will make you grow bitter. Just live your life however you feel like you should lead it. I have my questions and I have my arguments with God. But I try my best to just go through life with out Hate, Sorrow, Pain, Pride and sin. The only advise I can give you is try to live your life the way you feel best.

Then a whole lot of people are out of their minds.

not out of their minds, just incorrect. just like if there is a god, there won't be people out of their minds because they don't believe.

but if god doesn't exist, then he never existed - unless he died and then he's mortal now isn't he? and therefore not a god? anyway if god never existed then there is really nothing to worry about.

Reality other than the blatant is defined by perceptions, right?

you can percieve that metal sledgehammer as a marshmellow all you want and it will still pulp your skull......

even the blatant is must be perceived and is therefore subject to one's own perceptions

of course! it IS all a lie.

read Illuminatus!, and Cosmic Trigger by Robert Anton Wilson.

you'll see. 'They' are just trying to manipulate us. i'm not sure who 'They' are, but i think it's either the Illuminati, or the lloiger. possibly both in collusion.

"Nothing is true! Everything is permissible!"
-Hassan i Sabbah, 1090

does it really matter? It is indeed up to what the people believe, they can be told who what and how to believe, but everyone still has the choice to believe or not.
Nice anlalogy dy...but if the person believes it's a marshmallow, wouldn't they die thinking that?

yes.... I was just pointing out that though belief is a very strong thing.... there are points where it should be acknowledged that reality is fairly harsh and true.... in the above case... the person believing the sledgehammer was a marshmellow would die believing that..... yet they would die..... unavoidable reality....

My "faith in belief" extends to the unseen...in all honesty I am very aware of realilty...*sighs while rolling eyes in exhaustion, dreaming of a fairyland far, far away* Psychosis is described as a complete distatchment from reality...so for someone to have the extent of belief that many are demonstrating and I seem to be implying I possess, would be accurate if I was a truly insane person...but i'm just extremely neurotic with an over stimulated imagination...

Wow, I covered my ass completely on this one and Dyshade still insulted me. How foolish of him.

in what way did I insult you .....????
Did I insinuate in any way that that statement was directed toward you????
hmmm....

you said
reality other then the blatant is defined by perceptions....

and I said that....

were you expecting an insult??? because that was not one....
Reality is only mutable by our use of tools that are based in reality..... our imagination may spawn visions of purity and what ever other strange ethereal dreams it may.... they are just that though illusions..... I cannot think you dead..... you could not think a computer into existence without the aid of Real tools..... including your flesh and blood hands..... imagination is wonderful.... it is not reality though.... to make a dream reality takes sweat, blood, flesh, and tools..... all based in reality... you cannot just sit in some yoga position and wish things true... it does not work that way...... reality is not defined by our perceptions..... our perceptions are defined by reality....

I would have thought that you, of all people, could grasp this one, Dooshade. Guess not.

You have problems..... ones that are beyond anyones here capabilities to solve.... I suppose your low brow referance to my name is a juvenile suggestion at insult..... one which I will overlook..... I am coming to the conclusion that you are an imbecile with a child like predilection toward misdirection at the first sign of trouble...... I grasped your idea little one.... I was merely presenting my opinion..... why is it that in your worldview anyone with a differing perspective is an idiot???? That is not a very aspiring way to treat differing opinions.....

No, I actually wanted to say "Dooshade" because it sounded a little less awkward than your actual pseudonymn, that and I'm a little stoned. You once told me, that no world view is idiotic, just the idiotic ones. Well, your world view isn't idiotic, but it comes damn close and hovers delicately between logical positivism, just plain foolishness and completely wasteful of brain cells.