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What If? - 08-03-01

What if the tensions currently on display in the Middle East escalate even higher?
What if war breaks out between Israel and her neighbors?
What if even more countries begin to involve themselves in this conflict?
What if one of these countries is Russia?
What if one of these countries is China?
What if one of these countries is The United States of America?
What if one of these rogue countries can't win without firing a nuclear missle?
What if another country fires it's nuclear missles?
What if several countries break out into all out nuclear war?
What if one third of all mankind is killed by this nuclear holocaust?
What if a man arises on the scene who has "the answers" for all mankind?
What if the vast majority of the world follow this man?
What if the ONLY way the people of the world could function in what is left of society was to receive a certain symbol or mark on their body, devoting their allegiance to this man?
What if you didn't have this mark?
What if you couldn't buy food for your children or gas for your car to escape without this mark?
What if those who refused to accept this mark were killed so that they wouldn't interfere with the world coming together as one united entitity?
What if someone held a gun to your 5 year old daughter's head and said they will blow her brains out if you DON'T receive the mark?
What if you said you believed in Jesus instead?
What if they killed your daughter instantly for your declaration in one other than the new Great World Leader?
What if the gun was to YOUR head?
What if you died?
What if your entire family died?
What if you weren't prepared, even though all your life you had heard that this day might come?
What if all that is written in the Good Book is actually true?
What if none of it is true?
What if you have nothing to lose?
What if you have EVERYTHING to lose?
What if you lost?
What if you were now in eternity without your family and anyone else you had ever loved?
What if you could turn back the hands of time and make the choices that would have changed the outcome for you?
What if all this began it's chain reaction of events in the next week?
What if it all starts NOW?
What if?

Something to think about? Maybe.

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"This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed." John 3:19-20


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08-03-01

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The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.
John 1:5

"This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed." John 3:19-20


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08-03-01

We`d all be screwed.


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08-03-01

What if the World doesn't blow up?




Nice to see you've been reading Revelations, though. Find that passage yet? It's when they're reading names from the Book of Life.


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08-03-01

what if everything we've ever believed in was a lie?

for Christians, there is no God.

for Hermetic Alchemics, there are no 7 principles.

for Wiccans, there's no such thing as magic.

for Truth-Seekers, there's no such thing as Truth.

what if everything is subjective?






dude. that would SUCK.


I guess it just got cold in here.

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08-03-01

samichking: i know im on the side iof the subject now, but if your god is likely to force me to watch my child die, when it could have been avoided, id rather go to hell. its worth it, trust me.

anyone who puts a gun to my daughters head will die a slow and painful death.

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08-03-01

Hi Clearwitch,

FORCE you to watch your child die? What do you mean? And I would never trust anyone who says something is worth going to hell for. No matter what it is. No offense. I just don't understand why you would want me to trust you on that.

Again, I am asking "what if". It wasn't intended for you to take it personally as you seem to have done. It is intended as a hypothesis to ponder.

I apologize if I misunderstand you. I had a hard time deciphering your meaning in the first sentence where you say you are on the side of the subject now. I'm not clear on the meaning of that.

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what if everything we've ever believed in was a lie?


that would be quite interesting....
  
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08-03-01

well if the end of the world came i would refuse anything to do with the devil and i would not take the mark and if somebody killed my wife then id kill myself simple as that and then we could be together for eternity so it would be no biggie.




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What if i sold out like a bitch, and took the makeup off and went soft? Called myself Detroit Southwest Lover, and put my ugly ass face on the album cover... Went R&B Top 10 hit, and had Jodeci singing all over our shit?


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What if i sold out like a bitch, and took the makeup off and went soft? Called myself Detroit Southwest Lover, and put my ugly ass face on the album cover... Went R&B Top 10 hit, and had Jodeci singing all over our shit?
then youd be a loser from detriot and nobody would like you.:p




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08-03-01

As for the question at hand...we don't know. NONE of us know what we would do when and if that ever happed. Even a Christian could say he/she wouldn't cave in and take the "mark". And then given the situation take the "mark" and join up with whatever happend next. In that same vein of thought someone who is dedicated to not being a Christian or the Light or whatever you want to call it. Could given enough cause turn his/her back on that belief and not take the "mark" and die from the other side.
The whole point is no one knows what will happen. And whose beliefs are the right ones int he end. Not even a Christian. We just have faith in whatever or whoever we chose.
This goes even for you Samichking-even you have no idea what you would do in the end. You only know what you think you might do. And what you hope you might do.



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As for the question at hand...we don't know. NONE of us know what we would do when and if that ever happed. Even a Christian could say he/she wouldn't cave in and take the "mark". And then given the situation take the "mark" and join up with whatever happend next. In that same vein of thought someone who is dedicated to not being a Christian or the Light or whatever you want to call it. Could given enough cause turn his/her back on that belief and not take the "mark" and die from the other side.
The whole point is no one knows what will happen. And whose beliefs are the right ones int he end. Not even a Christian. We just have faith in whatever or whoever we chose.
This goes even for you Samichking-even you have no idea what you would do in the end. You only know what you think you might do. And what you hope you might do.

it is true we never know what we'll do untill faced with the actual situation.




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08-03-01

I think I'll be pissed if everything I've ever believed in was a lie. it really would suck. you wouldn't have ANYTHING. I bet a lot fo people would kill themselves. hmm.

:: ponders::

later.


I guess it just got cold in here.

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I think I'll be pissed if everything I've ever believed in was a lie. it really would suck. you wouldn't have ANYTHING. I bet a lot fo people would kill themselves. hmm.

:: ponders::

later.
if everything i believed in religously turned out to be a lie and i was still alive i don think id be so bummed because theres always time to change if your still alive.




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Re: What If? - 08-04-01

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What if someone held a gun to your 5 year old daughter's head and said they will blow her brains out if you DON'T receive the mark?
What if you said you believed in Jesus instead?
What if they killed your daughter instantly for your declaration in one other than the new Great World Leader?
thats what i call forcing.

do you have children, samichking? they are worth everything.

and no, i didnt take it personally. when i do, youll notice. :p


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Yes, I have 3 children. And tonight was one of the most blessed evenings of my life. I had the honor of leading my 7 year old son to Jesus. He asked Christ to come into his life tonight. It was so humbling to watch this young man pray and become a born again Christian. AWESOME I tell you. AWESOME.

Blessed,
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You know what - 08-04-01

If all that happened.. I'd keep faith in God.

I personally think I'm in a much better shape cuz I worship God and not Jesus. I say God is the savior and Jesus was the messenger. So I'm in a win win situation. If Jesus is god then since I worship God I have no problem.. If Jesus is not god then I worship God I win again.. woohoo..

  
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08-04-01

i know you mean well, samich, but please dont bless me. it gives me the creeps. no offense.

well, at least it seems like you let your kids choose for themselves, instead of forcing your religion on them. thats a good thing.


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Hi Clear,

Sorry to hear that blessings give you the creeps. I think you meant that mainly tongue in cheek, but I don't know. I say that because if THAT gives you the creeps, what does it do to know that I am praying that the spirits you are in contact with be subject to the Blood of Jesus Christ and His Lordship?

I seriously am not attempting to be a jack ass. I am interested in your opinion on this subject. As you surely know, I believe you are in contact with demonic spirits whose sole intent is to drag you to the hell they are destined for, and have you deceived enough that they are well on their way to completing their assigned task. I care about you Clear and am praying God's deliverance be brought to you through the power of the Blood of Jesus.

I know you will vehemently disagree with me and could easily see my defia