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what do you believe in? - 08-09-01

i don't worship god, the devil, statues, etc.

one words describe what i believe is:

*drums rolls everyone*

nihilism: a viewpoint that traditional values and beliefs are unfounded and that existence is senseless and useless.

i don't have anything against god, the devil, statues, or other people's beliefs...things seem meaningless and useless to me.
  
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08-09-01

Or to put it other way:depressive.


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08-09-01

how can you say that to me?

i feel hurt...its nihilism....not depressive...there is a thing like that.
  
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08-09-01

I know about nihilism I only read one page about it though because I dissagreed with it totaly. If you have a link then put it put Desh.


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Re: what do you believe in? - 08-09-01

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i don't worship god, the devil, statues, etc.

neither do i....i just believe in....blah
  
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08-10-01

I do not believe in god,satan, heaven hell or anything, really. I believe that I am here on earth with everybody else and that I will be there until i die (OoOoOo, wat a philosophy). Sure it seems to be too plain and simple, but I think that's the way it should be.


"Eyes of a fallen angel, eyes of a tragedy." ~APC
"Enrobed in endless black
It trails along behind me,
Dusting my path.
My shape is lost
Within this grand excess.
Somehow, my hands escape through holes,
Holding many roses.
I have no feet,
I can barely see in front of me;
My face has also been shrouded.
One tear is shed; still I am shocked.
The first person I ever saw die
Lies beneath this stone and dirt.
I place the roses on the mound,
Bask in the silence of the dark.
I turn, and walk away;
Unable to say goodbye. "
~Me.
  
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Hail Ometeotl! - 08-10-01

I believe in Gods/Demons as avatars of a particular (some more specific than others) aspect of The Universe (with reference to As Above So Below, therefore being The Universe and the Self one and the same), which by being believed in have manifest form - mostly in the non-physical planes but not always.

The only thing I actualy worship is The Universe/Self, but I find it easier to use the Mesoamerican pantheon to symbolise this belief: Ometeotl, the Lord of Two, is The Universe, which is then further split into Tezcatlipoca ("the dark side" if you will) and Quetzalcoatl (the light). I call upon any God that may be of use.
  
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08-10-01

i believe there might be several gods, deitys and entitys out there. i say 'might', because so far i havent found any proofs that they do exist, or dont exist for that matter. but i worship noone. (i guess just about everyone knows that by now...)

i do however believe that there exists spirits/fairys/whatever. that has been proved to me, beyond doubt.


You promised me the ending would be clear
You'd let me know when the time was now
Don't let me know when you're opening the door
Stab me in the dark, let me disappear
  
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08-10-01

I believe in me.

What some people call 'gods' or 'demons' I see as aspects of my personality. They are a part of me as much as I am a part of them. Some I get along better with than others ... those I consider my 'patrons' or 'guides'.

And, no, I'm not insane :)


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"...if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
- Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil
  
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I believe in me.

What some people call 'gods' or 'demons' I see as aspects of my personality. They are a part of me as much as I am a part of them. Some I get along better with than others ... those I consider my 'patrons' or 'guides'.

And, no, I'm not insane
Thats not insane, a lot of Chaosist have the same view as that.


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Quote:
Originally posted by malefic
I believe in me.

What some people call 'gods' or 'demons' I see as aspects of my personality. They are a part of me as much as I am a part of them. Some I get along better with than others ... those I consider my 'patrons' or 'guides'.

And, no, I'm not insane
That's the same way I feel, but you've put it into words so simply (whereas I couldn't).
BTW: Everyone's a little insane sometimes


"Eyes of a fallen angel, eyes of a tragedy." ~APC
"Enrobed in endless black
It trails along behind me,
Dusting my path.
My shape is lost
Within this grand excess.
Somehow, my hands escape through holes,
Holding many roses.
I have no feet,
I can barely see in front of me;
My face has also been shrouded.
One tear is shed; still I am shocked.
The first person I ever saw die
Lies beneath this stone and dirt.
I place the roses on the mound,
Bask in the silence of the dark.
I turn, and walk away;
Unable to say goodbye. "
~Me.
  
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08-11-01

okay. my belifes are completly off the wall. it s really sad but i dont expect any to belive in it other than myself and those who have also had experince with these spirits.


okay, some time ago some demons leave hell, by asking for forgivness fromm god. god being mercyfull allows them to leave hell and return to heaven. But this angers some of the other angels who are jelous that god forgives the "fallen". so they leave heaven (much like Lucifer did). The angels are happy to see thier brothers and all is happy in heaven. as for in hell they are angery at god for forgiving some and not all. (which was thier fault). So now this is causing uprising and rebellion in hell. hells armys are then divided. eventually there becomes 6 armys. (6 armies of the 3=666 the 3 being angel demon and man.) god then leaves paradise because there is no love from man nor the rest of his creations. so god,angels,and the risen host leave. in the end the 6 armies attack god and kill him, but his death = the death of existance.....actually im not sure if they kill him or not. i have been told this by my ancestory demon (grendel). God is now known as "The child with tears." but something is on the rise. maybe the battle..???...?? im not sure. but the child is surrounded by blood and his robe is stained with blood on the edges of the bottom of it. anyhow im tired of typing....

so.......WHO'S crazy?????????
  
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08-11-01

johnny: you know...my first reaction to your post was that youve probably had the bad luck of encountering a spirit with a sense of humour...and a bad one at that.

has it ever occured to you that your 'spiritguide' might not be telling the truth? that he might actually be lying through his teeth? maybe for some higher purpose, or just for the hell of it. not all spirits are to be trusted.


You promised me the ending would be clear
You'd let me know when the time was now
Don't let me know when you're opening the door
Stab me in the dark, let me disappear
  
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... - 08-11-01

clearwitch are you well educated in the subject of spirits?


"He lives the poetry he cannot write. The others write the poetry they dare not realise"

"He was wearing his yellow tie, i did'nt even wear a tie to work anymore..."


  
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08-11-01

im getting there, posthuman.


You promised me the ending would be clear
You'd let me know when the time was now
Don't let me know when you're opening the door
Stab me in the dark, let me disappear
  
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... - 08-11-01

know anything about spirits bothering you when your asleep, but not in your dreams in the physical plane, although you still cant see them?


"He lives the poetry he cannot write. The others write the poetry they dare not realise"

"He was wearing his yellow tie, i did'nt even wear a tie to work anymore..."


  
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you need to explain that one a little more...i didnt understand what you meant..? are you talking obe's here..?


You promised me the ending would be clear
You'd let me know when the time was now
Don't let me know when you're opening the door
Stab me in the dark, let me disappear
  
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... - 08-11-01

no, lets say your asleep, you wake up, and you feel something holding down where you cant move at all, then it just goes away....


"He lives the poetry he cannot write. The others write the poetry they dare not realise"

"He was wearing his yellow tie, i did'nt even wear a tie to work anymore..."


  
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08-11-01

you know what, i think you should get hold of someone, a witch or something, to check your house. it sounds like theres a spirit there. getting the place cleansed could help.


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Stab me in the dark, let me disappear
  
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... - 08-11-01

im sure theres more than one, but they dont bother me, i think theyre more helpful than anything, atleast for me, having a spirit isnt really abad thing .....


"He lives the poetry he cannot write. The others write the poetry they dare not realise"

"He was wearing his yellow tie, i did'nt even wear a tie to work anymore..."


  
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