I have a feeling that last post was more to show us how smart you are than to correct an error

Why is a pursuit of knowledge always interprted as vanity? Actually I simply thought that when dealing with such important topics as time-space, God, and creation it would be best to avoid as few errors as possible.

ok.

I think god is not more than want to believe in domething.

What the Hey Nonny Nonny is Morigaine talking about? Did someone else understand that?

i did. it's pretty much my belief. god, as with all religion, is the want to believe in something. i think that "domething" was a slip of the fingers.

I've got it narrowed down to two possibilities. If all of reality is contained within the Universe, there is no God. If there is reality/realities outside of the Universe, there is a God. Just a theory.

**imagines**

WOW!
That's pretty fucking cool!
Can I try?

**now imagine that dripping with sarcasm**

Sure is.

END THIS DAMN FORUM PEOPLE AND START ANOTHER ONE CALLED IS THERE A GOD CONT.
Golly.. Id go crazy trying to read all 38 pgs of this

**imagines**


oooh. ahhh.

Sacrelicious

now imagine that dripping with sarcasm

i dont want to keep citing physics but oh well. there is sort of another reality that exist. and particle physics is trying to learn more about it. and again i dont want people to confuse this with rumors or with theory. what they are studying is fact, and also id like to point out before hand, because it is sort of relevant, the big bang is not theory its fact. as far as to what caused the big bang and how and why it happened you can call those ideas theories, but the actuall big bang itself is not. now i said this is relevant because there is a theory on the big bang, that has to do with this other reality. anyways i posted this somewhere else but here it is. all around us, all the time, particles pop into existence from somewhere else and then they pop back out of existence as to where they come from and where they go we dont know. particle physicist are trying to find out. and yes this goes against alot of what they teach you in highschool but highschool science is really stupid anyways and it leads to alot of misconceptions like those associated with the big bang. in anycase, even though its appealing to think heaven or hell or the place where god lives, it really doesnt point in that direction at all. they might even actually come from our reality but we cant detect there existence for reasons still unknown. it is an interesting fact though. it kinda sucks we dont know more about it, but eventually we will.

[Edited by blueboy on 11-20-2000 at 01:30 PM]

One of the scariest things in the world IS "science", but blind faith is right up there in ranking...

Umm well several things.

1) You keep having this problem with referring to things that ARE theory as if they were fact. The Big Bang is indeed a theory. It is certainly NOT proven beyond all shadows of a doubt that are possible. I personally am a big believer in the Big Bang but I don't go around saying that it's absolutely true, anymore than if I were a reporter I'd go around saying that Gore won Florida. Just not good business. And you also have a problem where you think human science is somehow infallible. If you want to talk about what you're learning in College or what they think is the explanation for the Big Bang or whatever do so, but don't go around preaching condescendingly as if there were no chance of you being wrong and everyone else is wrong automatically whenever they come into contact with you. Another thing, if there ARE other realities, you certainly wouldn't ever be able to derive anything conclusive from them using our science because the Laws of Physics would likely be totally diffrent in another reality.

in actuallity everything we know is theory. "one plus one equals two" is a theory. if i have one apple in my left hand and one in my right hand and i put them both on a table i will have two apples on the table. that is in "principle" a theory. and like you stated before, you can test a theory a trillion times and it might go wrong on try one trillion and one. but we still say that one plus one equals two is a fact. the reason we do this is because it goes against all our logic to say it might not be that way on all occasions.the big bang is stated as fact for the same reasons. now i cant go into detail on this and there would be alot of jargon involved, but if you could take in all the information that we have (and we have alot)it's pretty much impossible that it didnt happen.just like its pretty impossible that one plus one will not equal two. it goes against all our logic to say that the big bang is not fact. you go to a physicist and tell him that, he'll look at you the same way you would look at someone who told you one plus one is three. and as far as where these particles come from, yea we wouldnt be able to draw anything conclusive YET, but that doesnt mean we wont in the future. but im sure that will not be in my life time.

I won't claim to be as up to date as you, seeing as I'm a High School Sophmore, but as last I was aware Steven Hawking was against the idea of the Big Bang. Or so I read in a Brief History of Time. I've had to resort to reading old books to try and get some real scientific knowledge as there's nothing to learn in school at this point. So I may be several steps behind you in understanding of where our science is right now. I personally don't want to disprove the Big Bang theory as I'm incredibly fond of it but I don't commit myself totally to it. And the point remains that the Big Bang was fifteen billion years ago and human science is fallible, so you can never really say with utter utter certainty that it happened. I actually would appreciate your explanation even if it does involve a bunch of technical jargon.

By the way one plus one can equal three, it depends if they're using protection or not. ^_^ (PS how do you do the html thing to get a real smiley face next to your text? anyone know?)

btw

"Everything we know is theory"

Exactly! Good progress!

P.S., thanks Skorp