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satan's makeup? - 11-30-01

ok, in not technically new here i just changed my name. i used to be spiderx666 or something close to that but who cares. anyway to my question. when satan was cast from heaven did he transform to his new animal-beast form thing? or do u think before he goes to bed he has to take off all his jewlery and horns and masks or whatever and basically strip down to his former angel form. and wake the next day and put everything on again? from my view point that could be a good way for 'god' to punish satan by reminding him of his choice and of his origin. thx cody


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11-30-01

hmmm...good question. i'll ask someone religious like a priest next time i see one...

but since i don't believe in it, i'll just make it up for now, when lucifer was cast away, he became more and more resentful and 'evil' and this evil eventually made him ugly and beast like. so boys and girls, you know what will happen to you if you be nasty.

...or if you choose not to worship adam but only god, remember you WILL be punished...


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He may have to punch in before going on shift, like Wild E. Coyote on Loney Toons.


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Satan can choose anyform he would like when he presents himself, it was the christians misinterpretation of ancient fertility gods that turned him into a hideous beast...he was Gods most beautiful angel, and it was pride that resulted in his casting down...



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12-01-01

Satan and Lucifer weren't originally the same character. Lucifer is the Fallen Angel, the Morning Star...Satan is the impersonation of evil, a mix of several heathen gods, especially from the babylonian hellmythos.


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Nail on the head Clear... Satan is the personification of evil. Does evil have a body?


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12-01-01

To just copy and paste one of my earlier posts here...

The earliest introduction of the devil is found in the Old Testament. But the descriptions are many and often confusing. In the Jews holy scripts we are told about Satan, in Greek diabolos, and Lucifer, the lightbringer. They represent the original dividing of the evil, though in the Middle Ages their appearances and functions melted into one.

In the earliest Jewish scripts the Evil is hardly present at all. Fair enough, the snake tempts Adam and Eve, and eventually leads to their downfall, but nowhere is it written that the Devil is the tempter. That is a much later Christian interpretation of the story. In the –Old testament Satan is mentioned not as a single entity, but in the form of a satan , meaning enemy of God. It is reasonable to assume that it was not just one, but many such enemies, satans.

The Jewish God was far from a loving and forgiving god. He was also the God of revenge, and his retribution upon the sinners was often cruel and merciless. When the highest God was also the one to bestow death and suffering upon earth, there was little need for an additional evil power. But over the centuries God becomes more and more good, and the devil figure grows in importance. According to religion scientists, this happened because of the heavy influence from the Persian demonology. Satan appeared as a single entity only after the Jews Babylonian exile in the 500’s BC.

Later on, Satan’s individualisation carries on, until he eventually becomes the great enemy, not only of God, but of Man as well. As his reign grows stronger, he gets competition from not only another devil figure, but a horde of small and big demons as well. Above all, his main competitor is Lucifer, the light bringer. Lucifer is described among other places in Isaiah 14, 12-14.

The story of Lucifer is in many ways similar to the Greek legend of Prometheus, who stole Zeus’ fire and gave it to the humans, thus making them less dependant on the gods. Lucifer is the Archangel who put himself above God by refusing to worship Gods newest creation, Man. In the Jewish-Christian way of thinking, pride is considered one of the seven deadly sins.

When Christianity appeared as an organized religion in the first few centuries after Christ, they adopted a well-developed hellmythos from the Jews.


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