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The Roman Empire - 11-07-05

It has been suggested that:

"The Roman Empire is alive and well and living in the Vatican"

Anybody interested in offering their opinion on this?


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11-15-05

Why? Did they thaw out Julius Caesar? Or did they bring back public orgies?

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11-17-05

Yeah the roman empire (AKA) the sixth babylon fell a long time ago, like all babylons do fall. If there's any empire that resembles the romans it would be that of the seventh babylon (AKA) the ununited states of america.


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11-18-05

The Roman Empire is dead



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11-18-05

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It has been suggested that:

"The Roman Empire is alive and well and living in the Vatican"

Anybody interested in offering their opinion on this?
I'd have to say that it's a mighty small empire then, considering the size of Vatican City.


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11-18-05

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I'd have to say that it's a mighty small empire then, considering the size of Vatican City.
Ah yes, but how many Catholics are there in the world, how much power does the Vatican wield in world politics, and does anybody really know how much wealth the Vatican controls?


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11-18-05

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The Roman Empire is dead
Actually, the Roman Empire survives through the Roman Catholic Church, thanks to Constantine.


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11-18-05

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Why? Did they thaw out Julius Caesar? Or did they bring back public orgies?

Elaborate......I have the time.
Julius Caesar had little to do with it. However, Flavius Valerius Constantinus (aka/The Emperor Constantine) did.

Public orgies, no. But isn't it odd that there does seem to be an ongoing problem with some of the priests...?


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Yeah the roman empire (AKA) the sixth babylon fell a long time ago, like all babylons do fall. If there's any empire that resembles the romans it would be that of the seventh babylon (AKA) the ununited states of america.
Don't be fooled by the shape shifter. Rome merely changed its stripes.

The Sixth Babylon yet exists.

Therefore America cannot be the Seventh.


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11-20-05

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Julius Caesar had little to do with it. However, Flavius Valerius Constantinus (aka/The Emperor Constantine) did.

Public orgies, no. But isn't it odd that there does seem to be an ongoing problem with some of the priests...?
The priests were that way since the foundation of the Church. Even in the Middle Ages the Pope himself had wives, concubines, and all that...

There was more intrigue then than there is now, with anyone getting in the way getting posioned, or murdered (via the Anglican Church.....Thomas a Beckett anyone?) but as far as the power the Church wields now it's largely ceremonial....I mean, when was the last time you heard the Pope call for the Excommunication and Impeachment of a President?



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11-21-05

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Ah yes, but how many Catholics are there in the world, how much power does the Vatican wield in world politics, and does anybody really know how much wealth the Vatican controls?
It's been said that if you want to follow the reason of why things happen just follow the money...

However, if I look at who the political power players in the world are, I don't see any Catholic influence there...not in America, not in any major factors in the EU, certainly not in China.

Where are most of the Catholics? South America. Africa. Not much political power in those venues.


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11-22-05

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It's been said that if you want to follow the reason of why things happen just follow the money...

However, if I look at who the political power players in the world are, I don't see any Catholic influence there...not in America, not in any major factors in the EU, certainly not in China.

Where are most of the Catholics? South America. Africa. Not much political power in those venues.
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Plus they are the only Church to have what amounts to thier own country with its own militia.



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11-22-05

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The priests were that way since the foundation of the Church. Even in the Middle Ages the Pope himself had wives, concubines, and all that...

There was more intrigue then than there is now, with anyone getting in the way getting posioned, or murdered (via the Anglican Church.....Thomas a Beckett anyone?) but as far as the power the Church wields now it's largely ceremonial....I mean, when was the last time you heard the Pope call for the Excommunication and Impeachment of a President?
What I find most intriguing is the Christian church, prior to the Eastern Roman Empire (under Constantine) adopting the Christian faith, is that it was a simple and modest religion. Once it was adopted by Constantine, and eventually both Eastern and Western Rome as the state religion, all the pomp and ceremony suddenly appeared. My understanding of Christ and the early Christian church is he, and the early church, were both a very simple and humble affair, and what the Catholic church today is more a reflection of what the elite in the Roman Empire were 2,000 years ago, than what Christ, his teachings, and the pre-Constantine church actually represented.

Admittedly, the modern Catholic church has been much more reconciliatory toward its past "enemies", however, I suspect this is more a consequense of good diplomacy than true repentance for past sins.

The Pope hasn't really had an opportunity to excommunicate a President because so far only Catholic President has been John Kennedy.


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