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possiblity equals reality - 07-23-01

this is an idea i had in the free will thread started by blueboy...
if god exists, there is no free will.
if god may exist, he exists, because the mind will conform to a new set of standards, a new way of seeing, in order to function in a universe based on a theistic world view.
even an agnostic, then, could go to a heaven after death if there were one, because his mind would, in considering the nature of things, at least be able to entertain the possibility that there's a god, and so god would be there, and all the effects of god's presence would benefit/harm him. (this i know is not what the bible says.)
only the atheist then would really be damned, because he alone would be unable to ever surrender things up to a hypothetical higher power, and so his actions would be on his head alone, and he would stagnate in disbelief, unable to strive toward any goal higher than those which humanity had already presented to him.

i doubt this idea will go over well, but i'm eager to hear responses.


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well, actually... - 07-23-01

...its not a bad theory...its just rather confused...

ur trying to say too much in too little words...


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07-24-01

ive thought about this before. luckily im agnostic, ha ha, but that is the same stupid reasoning that christians use when they say well if god is there then im not screwed. im refering to me believing im lucky for being agnostic by the way, not the theory in question. i don't know how actual it is that a believing mind would conform to fit the view of a theistic universe, or that an athiest mind wouldn't. i think this theory is liking to the one that one's own mind or spirit creates it's own world for itself when the physical body ceases to function. thus a christian would find itself in heaven, an agnostic could entertain a number of outcomes, and an athiest would be screwed to experience nothing for ever more. the theory is fun to ponder.


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07-24-01

Indeed it is. Thank you for giving me something to think about... I'll get back to you after pondering for awhile...


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