You never did respond to my questions, samichking.

Nope, I sure didn't

ill refrain from hostility due to my rather depressed perspective at the moment. look for them later though.

LOL........well, alrighty then. I'll be sure to keep a look out for your keen perspective.
Thanky so much for your contribution so far to the subject.

(pokin' at ya a little)

Damn, I agree with you all the way! I've got no problem with porno whatsoever. As long as it's none of that disgusting kiddie or shit fetish porn, then it's alright. I agree with a lot of you pro-porno people. Just because someone views porno, doesn't mean they're a sex offender. Most of the stuff out there is harmless.

Where do you draw the line with porn? And if you do draw a line, why do you?

* Walk to the middle of the room*

huh hummmm

Sex is natural and not sinful

Sex is fun

Watching sex if fun

There for porn is fun

Porn is a good way for people to vent also... it does not lead to rape nor to any immoral acts... and I for one can say that I do not view nor do I like porn... but if you could just give us one instance where it has somehow caused the death of another directly I for one would appreciate it...

Dyshade, I gave the links to that up above.

But here is the main one....

www.moralityinmedia.org/raypierce.htm

Please just because you do not like pron does not give you the right to try to get others to not like it as well. Take your moralistic views and go fuck your god.

Please show me where I do NOT have the right to try to convince people not to like porn.

Are you now going to try to argue your points by a "rights" point of view?

Is that all you have? You have to resort to a "rights" arguement?

you seem to be basing yours on a religious point of view

Well, actually I am basing my views both on a religious AND secular point of view.

so why push your religious views on others? you have the right to believe and look at what you want to, is it not somebody elses to have the right to look at what the wish to within the bounderies of the law? you want people to respect what you folow and enjoy, but by stating that porn is bad you are insulting others in what they enjoy in their lives. where is it that your views are correct and someone esles are not?

apathy, entropy, thats what this all is... secularism is devoid of all but faith

First of all, the old tired argument that I am trying to "push" my views on others is rediculous and I know that you don't mean that in a literal way.
I mean, how can I "push" my views on anyone here?
Am I forcing your hand to the keyboard and placing your finger on the key to open my post?
Of course not. So, I am NOT pushing my views on anyone. The only way people are viewing my posts is by a choice of their free will.
I am only offering my views for others to read IF they freely choose to do so.

I have never said anyone here that believes different than I is trying to "push" their views on me. And I never will. I read those posts that I choose to read. They didn't "push" it on me.

And of course it is someone else's right to look at porn if they want to. Never have I said it isn't.

If people are being insulted by my views of pornography then so be it. If they are offended they should choose to NOT read my posts. People do NOT have the right to not be offended. They are offended not because of something I "pushed" on them.
They become offended by something I posted after THEY CHOSE to freely read my post.

Where is it that my views are correct and others are not? My friend that is a choice that each person makes by their own intellect. It is in my lifestyle and in my faith if you need a concrete answer. It is in the answers that each person provides to the issue or any issue for that matter. Other than that, I am not sure how to answer your question.

Sincerely,
Samichking

Pr0n rocks.

I know for a fact that Jesus looks at it.

www.bsotl.org

Jesus' home page... PROOF!

I myself have looked/watched porn and find it humorous, but I don't really think its some earth shattering problem. It's only a problem when it turns into something harmful-like porn of children or snuff films. This is when I dislike porn. I say let everyone have there own choice.

i can understand the point being made here, however i think this point could be made about any activity. any activity (depending on how warped your mind is) can turn into a harmful activity if it is pursued and allowed to run your life. let's take driving for example; everyone in the 21st century is subject to driving a vehicle. there are a great percentage of people that commute in high trafficked area's 5 days a week. there is a phenomena that we have noticed in the last decade that has been labeled "road rage." now not every driver on the road succumbs to road rage, yet they do take place in the activity. yes the driving can be accredited for furthering the road rage, but i think it's safe to say that these people have other issues at hand. pornography can assist someone who already has issues and, perhaps, provide an outlet, but in most cases of pornography people go and get what already turns them on. if a man does not get excited with his own thoughts about other men, a magazine sure as hell isn't going to spur that on. you could almost equate it to supply and demand, if there was no demand for it, it would have no need to exist.

There are a lot worse things in the world. A lot, lot worse. Lighten up.