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05-03-01

I praise God in heaven that so many of you have been taking the time to read many of the posts and responses the last few days.
So many people have expressed their views of how they feel regarding Jesus Christ and my views regarding Jesus Christ.
I thank all of you for your responses.

If I have offended any of you, it was not my attention to offend, but instead to be blunt. I am not someone who is going to try to be nicer than Jesus was.
I am not going to try to be Mother Theresa.
I am not going to try to be anyone other than who God has called me to be.
That evidently upsets some of you. Well, so be it. I cannot control your emotions but I am glad you are sharing them. Our posts reveal alot about us.

There have been many posts directed at me or a post I have made that have just been nothing more than outright hatred or just flat out immaturity. Some times it is both.
I want each of you to know that I am not put off by anything directed towards me, if it is intended to intimidate or harrass me, for that only strengthens my resolve.

You see, I strongly believe in spiritual warfare. Many of you have lambasted me saying that I am trying to "save your souls from hell". Well, actually, that is impossible for me to do. However, I am out to at least provide an alternative for the many people (and I mean MANY) who are reading or at least perusing these posts but not responding. See, any Christian knows that the Holy Spirit moves in different ways. And I know that just one post can be used of God to reach out to someone who is hurting and in need of comfort. I am what you might call a sower. I sow the seed, let the Holy Spirit do His work to water, grow and nurture that seed and then in His timing bring that seed to fruition.

Now, some of you fine folks disagree with that and flat out oppose it. That is fine. Some of you have used disgusting language directed towards me. I can take it.
I mean, my Lord was subjected to far much more hate than any human here at this site can ever hope to throw my way. If He (and He warned His followers of this) were to be hated, so would those who believe in Him.

See, demons HATE the blood of Jesus. It has power to forgive, restore and regenerate. Demons hate it.
They flee and cower in fear at the sound of His holy name. I am a God fearing man and am not ashamed to stand up for Christ in places most Christians refuse to go. When someone who is filled with the Holy Spirit walks into a den of demons.......they are going to get riled. And the man of God has no fear and will stand firm as Satan throws his darts of hate and anger his way.

Some of you have said I am on a mission. Oh, I don't know about that. I am just here sharing Jesus and my thought on the subject. After all, this IS A RELIGOUS board where Christianity as a religion can be discussed.
I am thankful for the opportunity to be able to post here freely.

To those of you who do not like me or my message, I can only suggest you not read my posts. Unless of course you are some sort of S and M type and you like that sort of thing. LOL.......uh, that was a joke guys.
I say that because the ones who cry the loudest about what a pain I am are the ones who read my posts the most. Those kind of folks have always made me chuckle a bit.

Well, I know that this will be disected and gone over with a fine tooth comb by one or two people.

Bless you in your endeavor. I hope the dialouge will continue but in a more civilized tone.

Jesus Saves..........and always will.......if you are willing
  
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My Opinion of you has risen 254 poits already

i would also like to know what version of the bible
you read, as I hjave found a great reasource,
but it's the king James Version.

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How Interesting. What I have taken from this guys post is that, relative to the many statments that Chrstians and churches are full of hippocrites, is this: Yes, churches are full of them, and Christians can be too. They are not perfect, but Christians say that they NEED Jesus b/c they too have sinned. Not that they are better than everybody else. EVERYBODY is a hippocrite to some degree Christian or not. AND of course, myself. I often hear about how Chrstians judge the lifestyle of others, namely the type of people who are on this site. But before you raise your torrid voice in desent and decry hypocrissy, keep in mind that this guy hasn't really done anything to you. He hasn't flamed anyone like I have. I myself would find it difficult to be ganged up on and berated for simple posts. In NO ONE single post has he belittled anyone. A little smart aleck at times, but it's far better that what I'd have said.

I can tell it's not easy to be Christian and fathful to your cause when so many would stone you for your beliefs. Yet he does. What has been the result? Threads that call for his banning. I can't recall how many posts I've seen that in some way, shape, form or fashion mention violence, anger and hatred. Yet, most everybody would let it go by. And to this I'd have to say, just what has caused so many of you to become this way?

I've suffered a lot of crap in my life. But through it all I believe it's a great thing. I believe that there are many here who are genuinly unhappy (MR. CLUTCH BOY!) They are so angry at the world for the injustice they have suffered. Well, mostl likely there is somebody somewhere who's gone through the same thing. There are many is this world who've done me wrong, but in life there is much pain and suffering isn't it? Life is about learning and learning lifes lessons oft derive from our most painful experiences. This guy just want's to shed some of the joy he's found. What's so wrong about that? He doesn't MAKE you read anything he writes or posts..even if it is from someone else, it still has a message doesn't it?

SO, why don't you people leave him alone. YOU don't HAVE to read what he writes if you don't do you? Why not give him the courtesy of a non combative, non-judegemental attitude that he gives you? Just because he disagrees with you and challenges some of the lamest posts ever written doesn't mean he is judgeing. maybe, just maybe he's found something that's good and make him happy. Why not share something that good? It's really only fair. But then again, many of you are not interested in being fair. I think many of you are not angry at him, but just can't stand the fact that life is a good thing and that maybe, just maybe it could get better if only you chose to let it be. Otherwise, why would you be here talking about death and demons when their is a life to live before death. And before so many of you tell me how happy you are and you don't need this crap, be honest with yourself, are you really truly happy?

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Yes it is a place you can freely discuss your religion however the way you go about it annoys people. To have a discussion you should keep it neutral. Some people don't like to hear Jesus Saves in EVERY post you put up. If I was a Satan worshipper would you want me continuously telling you about how Satan is the way, and the light? To discuss something is fine, but the way you do it seems as if you are throwing it at people. If you want people areound you to change, you should as well. I admire that you are so adamant in your faith and truly believe in this character you call god and if you would like to discuss it then by all means feel free but a)try to make your posts a little shorter PLEASE and b) try to be less forceful about it. I doubt god will love you any less.


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You sent me up to the sky
Now their wings fan the heat from the face you'll never touch
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The lips, the hands you'll never hold
  
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samichking is cool
  
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hi,
samichking:
i'm sorry...i felt offended by your posts and probably without reason...i'm sorry if i have offended you...even though it was my goal, i now regret it...not beacause of anything spiritual that happened to me because of your posts or anything, but i think that i have to be more tolerant and i thank you for teaching this to me...but please don't always say:"You're in god's hands", because i don't start telling you that the devil is this and that and that he has influences on people, because even though i'm a satanist that follows the theory of Anton Lavey, i DON'T believe in god and i don't believe in satan either...
*Hugs Samichking and gives him a little kiss*
Sorry for my the way i acted
and to JimmyCrackCorn:
Sorry Jimmy, i just don't like you, because you have been a real pain in my ass...let's just stay away from eachother...k?
Hope this argument i had with Samich is settled
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Screw Jesus... he's just an idiot.


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Jesus was ok i guess, jesus CHRIST is the idiot...
  
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lol, should i be a midwife to knowlegde as well? i mean i do feel sorry for people like 777 and samichking who are lost and living a lie. i guess they value comfort more then they value truth. your thread is ridiculous. your GOD is a placebo. by the way, i have sex with my sisters cat.


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hi,
i really don't get samichking...but that's not a reason to insult him...i also think hat he is living in a lie and i don't understand how one can believe the things that he believes...but it's really none of my business...if he wants to beat his children because god beats us(and god is out heavenly father), then let him...i just don't get it:
In another post he said that he hits his 2 sons...but then the christians always say :"Save the children" and "think if our children"...but as i already said: It's none of my business, so i will leave him alone...i just don't get him and it's driving me crazy

Jesus shaves...and always will...if you are willing
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LOL, i think i know where he's coming from now. poor kids. it should be illegal for christians to have children.


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hehe...if they treat them like shit, it should really be illegal
  
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there is a difference between discipline and abuse.

also, you think that me and samichking are living a lie. well, how do you know that what you believe is the truth?


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there is a difference between discipline and abuse.

also, you think that me and samichking are living a lie. well, how do you know that what you believe is the truth?
the truth is, that i know nothing. im not going to let that truth scare me into blinding myself with visions of benevolent gods and immortality and heavens. there is a difference between discipline and abuse. abuse uses violent forms of punishment while discipline uses cognitive ways of reducing unwanted actions without negative results. the average christian spanking is a crime. it's just not enforced.


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spanking a child is not violent. i'm fifteen. my parents used to spank me. when i got more mature and stopped being stupid they stopped. it wasn't abuse. it's only abuse if they're leaving bruises and other marks, which my parents didnt. parents spank their child to show them that they are wrong.

i'm sure that samichking doesn't abuse his kids.


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im not sure what your definition of violence is. the american pshycology association defines violence as any act that causes uncomfortable or unwanted stress to physical or mental aspects of a person. spanking is violent. there are good number of ways to punish a child that do not involve violence. punishment is a process that decreases the occurrence of a behavior. that process doesn't need to be violent at alll. another thing with your bible saying to punish kids with violence(by the way i think it says they should be spanked till they bleed) is that god never said that. it was king solomon. but anyways spanking is a pretty stupid concept and there are more positive ways and even more effective ways of shaping a child into a good moral person.


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you are very misinformed.
king solomon did say something on the subject of "discipline." but, it was not "spank your children until they bleed!!!" and btw, the bible was sorta written by God. he let the authors know what they should write. here is the verse:


He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him.
- proverbs 13:24

psychologists are idiots.

yes, i do agree that you don't have to spank your child to teach him right and wrong. it is just a good method. when you spank them they'll think twice about disobeying again for fear of getting spanked. yeah.

also! why do you people bother to dispute that the bible is wrong when your knowledge of it is so little?


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you are very misinformed.
king solomon did say something on the subject of "discipline." but, it was not "spank your children until they bleed!!!" and btw, the bible was sorta written by God. he let the authors know what they should write. here is the verse:
no, the bible was not written by god. that is what dillusional christians believe. however a good number of the books in the bible are plainly known to have been written completely free of gods accord. these include proverbs, the psalms, and most of the beginning of the new testament.


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He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him.
- proverbs 13:24
from the proverbs of solomon. not in any way from GOD.

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psychologists are idiots.
im not sure how you rationalize that statement.

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yes, i do agree that you don't have to spank your child to teach him right and wrong. it is just a good method. when you spank them they'll think twice about disobeying again for fear of getting spanked. yeah..

it is not a good method. and it usually leads to the children turning to violence in the future when they're are not sure how to deal with mal-behavior. children look to parents for emotional support, security, and to learn and tackle life in a way that is healthy. this sense of security and the emotional outlets is shattered because they have to learn to fear their parents. and causing fear is a very unsuccesful way to prevent behavior. as im sure you know most kids that are subject to violent forms of punishment only abide by rules when the fear of getting caught is present.


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also! why do you people bother to dispute that the bible is wrong when your knowledge of it is so little?
my knowlege of it is immense. theology is one of my hobbies. my father has been a pastor for quite sometime. i know what im talking about when i say the bible is bullshit.


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actually, you don't.


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