He is proabbly refering to us "Goths".
And if he doesn't like it he can sitck it in Mary Shellys dead face and rotate.

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dont use the middle finger smiley.
Rule #2
we don't care about your religion...or your opinion.

I believe in hooked on phonics. I'd even foot the bill if I thought it would help you write something interesting.

although your points are valid, they have all been said many times before.
i thought you might have some thoughts of your own.

something like...why are witches considered evil for using rocks, trees and other aspects from nature...when those who worship through a book made of dead trees are not?


what's more godly?

the world he created or a book made by man?

now thats a thought

it's death, living things die...why be afraid of a natural cycle...now flying in a plane, that's something to fear.

why does a god have to figure in the picture at all?

We all choose what we believe in, you chose god. I chose magic we pick our beliefs base don what we hope to gain from them. Either to help us with our fears or help us become better, sometimes both.

Dont you think it is a little narcissitic to believe that a supreme being with dominion over all has your best interests at heart?

I find orginized religion to be misguided, but the faith that mankind has and what comes from it are wonderus to behold. Faith in each other, faith in the country in which they live ect ect. Faith is one of our redeeming qualities.

I once feel the way you feel but now i am different. I am not afraid of death neither do i rely on religion to dictate for me. I believe in God because i see compelling reasons. If you believe in yourself is alright,do you make mistakes? If you make mistakes then believing in one's self is also a big mistake. If you believe in the big bang theory, who set things in motion? Why have we not experience other big bangs since the first one. You may want to read the book 'Life How Does It Get Here? By Evolution or BY Creation?' or the book 'Is There A Creator Who Cares About Us?' From these books you will since reason that make sense to many once atheists.
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are you saying believeing in yourself is flawed because people are inherently flawed. If you cant place faith in yourself because your flawed how can you place faith in god who also demonstrates flawed actions and behaviors

i've got people personally working on saving my soul...so what's the point of reading books when they only generate more questions, and when you ask for answers, you get more books to read or some bible quote...

i don't blame god, i do believe in a supreme source of energy...i can attribute our intelligence to something higher, something inspired the neolithic poeple to climb into caves and emerge with creativity, imagination and everything that makes the human race such a glorious alteration on this planet...god's not the problem, those who push books to tell a person how to develop a relationship with god, are the true fiends here, god's just the patsy blamed for their, inadequacy in representing him.

i've realized there are those who are able to, witness by example, clever arguements and their intelligence...books always end up on a shelf or packed away in a box...but discussion, that always captures hearts and minds...it's easy and rather common to see those who worship god talk about how wonderful it's made their life, but so few actually go into detail about the how's and why's it makes their life so much more perfect than the lives of those who are not so...adamant about worshipping an external entity that offers so little proof for his existance.

Jordyn

its the faith they have in something greater then just the physical world. its very uplifting, especially if it is a shared faith, it does not have to include god

It follows from believing that Being made us, but we all know where that discussion can lead.
My question regarding the creation of humanity by the Christian God is this: knowing that so many would choose not to be in redemptive relationship with Him, wouldn't it have been cruel of God to have initiated humanity?
I'd really like a plausible answer- from you too, wynn, if you can tone it down a bit =-)

i know what you are saying inky and it does make sense. christianity gives one a sense of purpose. it harvests the idea that there is an afterlife, my life can lack now but after death i become so much more.

if you accept that god is an all knowing being, then the answer to your question is yes. In fact he would be beyond cruel, I would use the word saddistic.

Just thinkin': if we accept the idea of one energy source or God, it would be rude for it/Him and us, just the two of us in the universe, to ignore each other. I'm not saying we should worship it/Him necessarily, but, you know, if someone has greater abilities than you, you should at least admire them and try to emulate them or try to understand them better. I think that's what you and Necropolis are saying you're attempting through magic(k?), Jordyn.

It seems like the idea of multiple gods isn't much of an issue, at least in the West. Once you dignify things at a certain level, I think you just know there isn't really anything to gain from venerating them. And, since by definition you can't have more than one all-powerul, all-knowing, all-etcetera Being, there's no reason to go there either.

Alright STOP RIGHT THERE, before anyone can even dare to try to define "God" and his motive or hwo we should relate to him in any context as if it is FACT. Then you must first tell us all what the Sun looks like.