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Attention The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 02-08-07

The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas


What is the Mark of the Beast? If it were to happen today could you identify it? If you could identify it what good would it do? Would the knowledge of the Mark make a believer out of an atheist? I think it all comes down to faith. Some people are supposed to see while others are not, no matter what proof is given. So what is the main purpose for studying prophecy and looking for the Mark of the Beast? I believe that purpose is to show who God really is and expose a false religion. Islam is that false religion. It has drawn one third of the world’s population to a false God and is ready to destroy the world in defense of it. There are other false religions in the world but none as violent as Islam. Islam is at war with all peoples; Jews, Christians, Hindus, Atheists, you name it, and even other Muslims.

This letter was born out of a question by an astute reader. It was very thought provoking and led me to another answer I was looking for. Its timing couldn’t have been better. As it is with most knowledge, a question has to be asked before an answer can be found. So here is the question.

Could you explain how the dipping of fingers into ink when voting is consistent with the mark of the beast? It seems to me that people are pressured into getting the mark of the beast in revelations because without it they can't get the necessities of life.

This question is in regards to my belief that the Mark of the Beast was given to the Palestinian people during their Presidential Election on January 9, 2005. This Mark was applied to their right thumb and prevented an individual from double voting. It was supposed to last for about 48 hours. On the surface it would seem that a mark on the right hand with indelible ink is nothing more than its purpose, to prevent double voting. On the other hand, what if you just voted for the beast and were unaware of it. The mark of the beast can be three things: his mark, his number or his Name. Christianity likes to blend two of these ideas together and say that the Mark is the number 666 inscribed. This is just one example there are many others.

Did this mark directly cause the people to be able to buy and sell? The words in Revelation 13:16 provide a good clue. He caused all, both small and great, rich and poor, or free and bond to receive this mark. Why would someone who is great, rich and free need to get any sort of mark in order to buy anything? A person in high esteem with lots of money (maybe a government official) needs no permission to buy anything, he does as he pleases. The opposite of that is what gets my attention more. If a man is small, poor and in jail why would he need to get a mark? If he is in jail he would have relatively no need for money as he would be getting his food and shelter from his jailors. The short answer is that the mark was given to all even those in jail who voted in the Palestinian Presidential Elections. This mark identifies the second beast and was only indirectly involved in their ability to buy and sell.

The situation that caused a lack of funds in the PA government was due to the Election of Hamas as ruling party a year later. Since no western government was providing aid to the Palestinians it became apparent that the PA government would slide into anarchy and collapse. Therefore, a temporary mechanism was created by the international community to allow money to be given to essential PA institutions while bypassing the Hamas Government. All money going to these essential humanitarian institutions will be distributed through the office of the President, Mahmoud Abbas. Now, through the name of one man, the people are able to buy and sell namely because many will be receiving salaries. Now you have two items which identify the beast, a mark which was given when he was elected and his name which will allow funds to be given. There is only one other thing that can identify him and that is his number. That number is 666.

Gematria is the most common way scholars use to find his identity. A system that applies a number value to letters to see if an individuals name will come to the sum of 666. One guess is as good as another in this system and many people’s names add up to 666. Any answer would just be a guess and provide relatively little proof to back it up, therefore I never devoted much time to this theory.

In my search I was more concerned with how and why and when Mahmoud Abbas was going to bring about his peoples ability to buy and sell. That answer came with the election of Hamas. Hamas was the reason why the PA had a lack of funds. The international community, through a temporary mechanism sponsored by the Quartet, was how they were going to get the funds. The last thing is the most surprising. The Quartet (US, UN, EU and Russia) agreed on this international mechanism to fund the PA on June 16, 2006 on a Friday. This happened on the sixth day of the week in the sixth month on the sixteenth day in the year 2006. It seems the event I was looking for happened on a 666 day, one of only three in the whole year. I think most people were more concerned with June 6, 2006.

Remember, the mark of the beast can be three things: his mark, his number or his Name. All three of these items point to the second beast. They describe him as an adjective does a noun. It is how they are interpreted that either blinds us or lets us see. Therefore, what I have done is link the number 666 to his name instead of the number to the mark. It was a coincidence that this find ever happened. I wasn’t looking in this direction when it found me. I was following the money.

I would be remiss if I didn’t mention one more thing.
I usually don’t make too many predictions and only write about events after the fact, but here goes. Since writing this letter and pondering the situation in Israel, I have thought of another possibility for the Mark. Any referendum held by the PA that advances policy allowing the international community to provide international aid to the PA would qualify. It would qualify as long as a Mark is applied to the hands or forehead and is given to all Palestinians just as mentioned in my remarks on Revelation 13:16.

In summary, Jesus is Lord and he is coming soon.

The Watchman of Ephraim Hosea 9:8
  
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Serious The Final Provocation - 02-08-07

The final provocation has been set up. Have you seen it or are you still blind?
I'm going to keep talking while nobody is listening and see how long it takes
for everyone to see. It won't be long now. If you need to make amends
do it now. If you have a quarter that is the Lord's spend it. When your
quarter earns the Lord's interest you will multiply your treasures in heaven.
Just for clarity I am not speaking of real money. It is just a good deed no
matter how small. The two edged sword is about claim what is his.
This is a warning to watch. It is coming soon. We who have made agreement
with the Lord will soon see him. Those who have not will soon see their Lord.

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02-09-07

so many theories, facets and ideas...it's nice to see another one presented.

Who's the whore?



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02-09-07

Palestine barely qualifies as a state, that's why the processes to identify people aren't in place. The ink is nothing more than exactly what it is claimed to be, a means to prevent multiple votes by any individual.

You have to really reach out to the lunatic fringe to try to read this much into it. If you want to bash Abbas, his terrorist state, or his sick, evil religion, there are plenty of REAL things to base it on.

And one more fucking thing, ephraim, you must have an ego bigger than God Himself if you think that YOU are a Watchman. I expect them to have a better grasp on reality.
  
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Palestine barely qualifies as a state, that's why the processes to identify people aren't in place. The ink is nothing more than exactly what it is claimed to be, a means to prevent multiple votes by any individual.

You have to really reach out to the lunatic fringe to try to read this much into it. If you want to bash Abbas, his terrorist state, or his sick, evil religion, there are plenty of REAL things to base it on.

And one more fucking thing, ephraim, you must have an ego bigger than God Himself if you think that YOU are a Watchman. I expect them to have a better grasp on reality.
I think you named yourself appropriately.
If your like me you have a short attention span.
Here is a shorter version of the same thing.

On June 16, 2006 a program was enacted that allowed
money to flow through one man, Mahmoud Abbas, in order
to pay the salaries of his people. He empowered his people
(Fatah) to buy and sell simply because he was allowed to
receive and disperse funds. Hamas was prevented from
receiving aid from Abbas. This fulfills Revelation 13. Hamas
boycotted the Election of Mahmoud Abbas, therefore they
did not receive the mark. Only Fatah got the mark, and only
Fatah is receving money from Abbas. So Hamas cannot buy
and sell because they did not receive the mark. Here is
another way to view it. By not receiving salaries they were
prevented from buying and selling.

So here is the interpretation that I am describing.
No man can buy and sell unless he has the mark, the
number of his name or his name. The men being referred
to are the Palestinians. Not the whole world. The funds
in question are the Western donations that used to go to
the PA but were stopped after Hamas took over the
Government. Make any sense? Ephraim

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09-03-07

You do realise that the bible is a work of fiction that isn't meant to be taken seriously, right?


"The world is like a ride in an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it you think it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills and it's very brightly coloured and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while."

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You do realise that the bible is a work of fiction that isn't meant to be taken seriously, right?

that would depend on the person reading it...

their prophecies and predictions are all subjective, but for some people the bible can help them understand certain aspects to life that other options like the occult fail at, including the Gd they choose to worship and whether to accept His Son or not.

it's not actually fiction, it's a gathered group of letters, observations and personal experiences that people had with their god, his chosen people and his son, and what they learned from those lessons, no one seems to deny that Jesus was some sort of teacher, is it fake for students to take their teachers information and spread it?

fiction would be a few people sitting around saying, "hey let's write this"; sort of like the weekly world news or are you saying a person's journal or blog is fiction, that any teacher who's ever inspired a person to write based on those lessons are fake?

...anyone with a brain should know it's a book, a person who believes it will glean more out of it than one who does not believe in it, but when you start saying it's fake, that's when you're saying a person's belief is fake, and no one...human has that right, even the bible warns against assuming such an ego, leaving the judging to Gd.

on topic, i don't see how palestine could be considered anything on a worldly scale, just because they're enacting some funky voting options, does not mean that they're the anti christ...if revelations is indeed prophecy and not just an author's way of conveying the political system and it's dangers for that time.

i still favor rome, it has done more to disuade, mislead and destroy the root of christianity, including it's judaic roots than any enemy of Israel, i'm sure it has more wealth and power than any one in palestine and hold the world in sway with the spiritual leadership of the pope, rather than Gd. Lord help us if they vote a devout pope follower to a position of political power!

america was a front runner for awhile, but if we keep putting president's like bush in power...we'll have nothing to worry about, it's the clever, charismatic leaders that frighten me.



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09-12-07

Whatever the validity of more relevant parts of the Bible, Revelations is useless at best and more often actively harmful. It is a book filled with typical dramatic apocolyptic imagery but little real meaning. It gives intentionally vague predictions that can always be fitted post hoc to whatever the current global situation is. Hell, the fucking book says itself that no one will have any idea when the fucking end comes despite it's "warnings". And as near as we can tell, the author thought that the anti-Christ was going to be Nero.

You might as well be reading Nostradamus.


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Whatever the validity of more relevant parts of the Bible, Revelations is useless at best and more often actively harmful. It is a book filled with typical dramatic apocolyptic imagery but little real meaning. It gives intentionally vague predictions that can always be fitted post hoc to whatever the current global situation is. Hell, the fucking book says itself that no one will have any idea when the fucking end comes despite it's "warnings". And as near as we can tell, the author thought that the anti-Christ was going to be Nero.

You might as well be reading Nostradamus.
if you were a roman in that time, i imagine he would have been the anti christ, at least for the world that was rome.



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I can't imagine Mahmood Abbas the antichrist. He isn't controlling the world, and Palestinians seem to slowly dislike him now.
  
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Serious Why Mahmoud Abbas is the Beast of Revelation 13. - 01-23-08

Why is Mahmoud Abbas the Beast of Revelation 13?

The most important issue that must be resolved in discovering
the meaning of Revelation 13 is which people are being discussed.
If the wrong people are associated with the prophecies of
Revelation 13 its answer can never be found.The people being
referred to in Revelation 13 are the Palestinians. Once this is
decided three questions have to be answered; why, how and
who.

Why do the Palestinian people lack the ability to buy and sell?
Due to the Hamas takeover of the Palestinian Government,
Western Aid was discontinued.

How will the Palestinian people receive funds in order to buy
and sell?
Through a program called the Temporary International
Mechanism that bypasses the Hamas controlled Palestinian
Authority. This program was established on Friday June 16, 2006.
This date 6/16/06 represents the day that one man was
allowed to administer a program that paid his people.
This is
an amazing coincidence. There are only three days in ten years
that end with three sixes; June 6, June 16, and June 26.

Who will provide these salaries to the Palestinians?
Western Aid was resumed through the office of Mahmoud
Abbas due to the Temporary International Mechanism.

Also, what group will be prevented from getting money because
they did not receive the mark?
Hamas boycotted the Election of Mahmoud Abbas in January
2005; therefore they did not receive the indelible ink mark to
their right hands. All salaries are being given to Fatah, the
party of Mahmoud Abbas. Hamas will not honor the image of
Mahmoud Abbas. The image of Mahmoud Abbas is required by
the international community to continue peace talks with Israel.
This image is three items that represent Abbas and his
Government; the honoring of all prior Palestinian agreements
with Israel, the renunciation of terror as a means to an end,
and a two-state solution based on the 1967 borders prior to
the six-day war.

Three items point to the Beast of Revelation 13: his mark, his
number and his name.
WOEphraim

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