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The Man who paints the Future - 05-15-04

David Mandell, a retired art lecturer, who for some 60 years has been able to predict the future in his paintings.

a little while ago i mentioed this chap in another thread but i couldnt recall his name and thus, some people didnt belive me. finally in the UK channel five is repeating the documentry it did on him (sunday at 80pm) and i could check his name.

he dreams terrible bits of the future such as teh world trade towers and paints them the following day. then he gets them photographed at his local bank by the side of a clock which is sealed and never opend or alterd. he's a nice old guy and so has taked up every challenge that science and it's studants can put at him. the documentry shows this, as every test he takes that they can devise actually ends in his favour, proving he is telling the truth to the point where no one can think of any other tests to put him under, no one from the top universitys, here and abroad. i think it's simply enough that he is polite enough to do what ever they ask, i certainly wouldnt, i would tell them where they could f**k off because i wouldnt want to be spending my time with nitwits. but then thats him.


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Interesting. So noone looks at his pictures and then decides to alter our current timepath? Most interesting...


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05-16-04

i dont understand Ae ?

what i like most about him is that most scientifically minded people complain that those with gifts seldom want to be tested.....no small wonder when it means spending hours or days with people who are always doubting and being rude, but this older guy is happy to take whatever tests they can think off, and many times they are converted from never going to belive it to beliving. he doesnt say he's specil, nor powerful, in fact he complains because he has these horrible nightmares and would rather have a nice nights sleep.....it's just what happens, and he hopes he can help.


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05-16-04

If a possible future is revealed to you, you have 3 options:
1- Disbelieve. Be sceptic of the image presented and continue on your current path in time/reality.
2- Ignore. Ignore the image presented and continue on your current path in time/reality, believing it will come to pass.
3- Act. Take an active hand in ensuring the image presented to you is altered to suit your needs/desires.

Personally, I find the third option always the most favorable. It is also the reason why I'm quite sceptical even about the possibility of foresight. If you can predict the future, you can alter it... And the altered future differs from the prediction. A paradox...


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05-17-04

right i get you.....why didnt you say that in the first place lol. well in his case he painted the world trade towers even to the little detail of people falling from windows. a year later and bush blew...they got knocked down and blowen up. i carnt see a little middle aged painter being so despert to futill his art that he arranged for teh towers to be felled


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05-18-04

I realy can belive that the future can be predicted............
  
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well anyone can you just have to know where to look


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i think more importantly is why. if it's just something you discover you can do then fine, your not trying to hurt anyone, if your trying to help with that gift thats understandable, your not seeking fame or money. but in most cases, especially in the scientific circles, those who do make a fuss are seeking notority and infamy. it isnt your fault if someone else makes you famous.....but if you seek it...


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ok i've just got one question, if any of you painted a picture of the future what would your personal picture look like?

mine would be one of those white opera masks on a black background with bright red blood flowing from the eye slits

i beleive that the opera mask and the black would symbolize the fact that in the future everything will still be here just without humaity to use it. and the blood would symbolize the fact that humanities demise was a drawn out affair with enough time for people to weep over lost loved one befor finaly dieing themselves.


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well the guy paints his dreams.....hence his painting of the trade towers...which at the time hadnt happend were two tall towers, one begingin to fall while the other smoked and little people falling from the windows.

it would depend how i saw my vision...but i dont papint, i illustrate -

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i would probably draw bush in a feild of white liliy's as the nuclear mushroom rose in the background. he would see it as a halo, but as we all know it's the ultimate sign of death and man made doom and liliys are a flower of death.


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sounds like fun......


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Clairvoince sucks !!! but can be fun ..If you practice you may find a knack for it but ...sometimes your better off not knowing ! before my teen years I had kick but Clairvoince now its more of a dejavu thing and it annoys me because I remember having the dream but cant remember Whats about to happen anyways just that I remember dreaming whats happening ...

Here's a prediction for you ( May not be all mine but here ) look at my thread on the I-CHI-AL under religion ..Then you can decide if knowing the future is so hot !!saddly when this kind of thing enters my head I BELIVE IT WILL HAPPEN !!! and basicly soon !!.Self has to go play defend the castle !! lol


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ok


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