Hi

is anyone out there interested in magyk the real stuff or magick the stuff that is passed off as being real.

real sorcery is very hard.

but what is even harder is faking it

I've always been interested in the craft. Though I'm the type to use black magyk over white, and I wouldn't like living like that - so I've avoided it pretty much. Though I'm never one to say no to listening in on a conversation about it.

real magick is a state of mind, it does't matter the title, just the will of the person who wields it.

True. Though it's much easier to classify it for books and tv.

I've never seen it spelled the other way (magyk)

Is that new?

And yes, real magick is hard. (Sometimes TOO hard.)

most is going the route of books and tv, it's no wonder i'm finding God, he doesn't seem so cliche, anymore.

A spell is only as strong as the will of it's caster. Basically the light of magick will shine brighter based on the time and effort sacrificed by the caster. If you make a circle out of red chalk, use black store-bought candles, and other ingredients found around the house, you're not going to get the same result as the one using cherrywood, sulfur, real snake-skin candles, and hard-to-find items such as hair, blood, teeth, or bone fragments.

Oooh! You are dark! Bout time this forum got a little occult life back into it.

OK lets jsut break down the three types of magick

magyk- the psycological magick ( and it is just the literal translation from the babylonian)

magic - like the crap they show on tv with the magitions like chris nagel, although he does some other stuff

sorcery- that is when you get the candles and blood and chalk etc

and the word magyk refers to the ability of will power to affect things outside of hte body.
and it also involves stuff like energy transferring, like what the chinese say with chi and the like. A person can rederect the body energys to make other things happen, the simplest thing to do is create or reamove heat. It is actuallly possible to boil water without any extra source of heat.

I believe that there are spheres of magick that can affect things inside of the body so we're probably talking about two different things. It seems instead of the normal 'conjuring' practice I follow your magyk is more of an energy based proposal, psychic if you will. It sounds to me like you might be blessed with some astral or psychic ability, and maybe you can learn to control it.

A spell's strength also has to do with the number of casters, the time of day, willingness of the conjured spirit, etc etc.

ah yes, i forgot how complicated magick can be.

Hey SaturnAscends
that is a good point you have made, but it is still along the same lines, i have learnt how to control it aswell as the magick you use. so when the combined psychic thingis and other magicks are put together, well you can see the perks.

also the spell casting magick is very very easy, i somehow know some things that i just shouldnt, it is weird coz it is all memories, but they are not my memories but they are. gah.

but yes magick is very hard and should ONLY be attempted by those who are willing to put themeselves through some rather uncomfortable feeling ( yes i know understatement).

Although anyone can perform different types of magick, it justs depends on what you find the easiest

Its more of a custom rather.

if you mean the bible condemns it, than yes...it is in opposition to some established religions.

magic is a belief, practice or for some...it can entail a religion, but it's usually a religion that embraces it, this can be seen in the annoying, but persistant confusion between witches and wiccans.

people's minds create the magick, not a god or a dragon...back to mind over matter in my opinion...i do believe there are still energies out there, that can be utilized for personal needs...but if you have faith, i now realize you can find those answers inside yourself and your faith, not on external factors that may or may not have the best intentions in mind, for you.

What you said about the energys out htere. Well how many people actually watch dragon ball z, the episode where goku attakcs Freeza with the spirit bomb. well what is shown there is a reality, the energys are within everything.

and also, do not rely on magick to be your life. And yes there are more powerful spirits that you can assume the power of, very hard to do properly, as it can lead to being an addiction worse than smoking crack. So use magick in conjunction with commmon sense.

does that help a couple of people????