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Hey all, this thread is for discussing Oazaki (me) and his stuff. I started it so that questions re: the validity of my stuff, discussions on it, and criticisms of it, can be made here. Rather than cluttering up other threads with off-topic discussion. Also, this thread is the place for those who so wish to direct general or off-topic questions to me.
Of course, if you have comments and criticisms directly relevant to a thread's title and purpose, then that thread itself is the logical and natural place to post it. But for more general and off-topic discussion and criticism of me, my stuff, predictions i have made and will make, and like material, please keep it to this thread. Thanks.
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lillith,
liked your latest post on the george w bush thread re: your take on the nature of the reality, karma, ego, etc. interesting read.
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Well, actually I did share a lot of strong features with my father, and oddly enough I have moments when I look exactly like my grandmother in her youth. My father is gone, and grandma no longer has her youth, so I guess in a way that's true.
hey, that's kinda a charitable interpretation babe. i got a strong connection to your father (more so than to the rest of yr immediate family at least; though perhaps this is idealization, i dunno), but it didn't look to me as if you physically had very similar features, so i guess i failed to pick up on that one. didn't check grandparents, uncles, cousins etc
| Well, I did just tell you he was dead, so it's only natural you'd say you had a strong connection to him. No offense, but I pretty much gave that to you and you didn't mention knowing my dad before now.
I used to have this picture of us together when I was 10 or something, and the similarities were (to me) remarkable. The same smile, same jawline, same hair. I loved that picture, but I don't have it anymore. Some unknown, sneaky, vindictive little f*cker decided it was necessary to steal all of my things.......ulgh. (May he die a slow painful death.)
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I am slightly more exotic looking than both of them, but I do definitely resemble certain family members.
fair enough. you looked different to your brother (you have a brother right? hope i didn't get that one wrong too!) and your mother. and your father also, more refined / gentler features in the latter case. big difference re: nose and cheekbones. also forehead a lot less "square" on you, and your face a lot more ounded generally. and eye shape different too, his deeper set and yours being very, very slightly slanted. very, very slightly so though. just the way the're shaped at the very outer corners, more a shape that a slant really. but an important facial characteristic i'd say. anyway, how close does that sound?
| Actually yes, I look different from my brother and my mother (both of which, for the record, I have mentioned on OF. Whether before or after you left I don't know). Yes my features are more refined (my uncle would say 'aristocratic'), but I chalk that up to being born a girl. Yes, my nose and cheekbones may be different, same for my forehead (which is not very square at all). But I haven't got a good picture of my dad around, so I couldn't really compare. Nor could I be honestly objective about my own features. I think you're right about my eyes, though. All in all, you've come closer than I expected.
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you've *already* got some sort of entity within you. not exactly a demon, but close. he's actually alright though. it is he who gives you your strong pride and your strong desire for independence and makes you want to stand tall, free and independent. oh, and more pride on top of that too. he's localised in the top part of your torso, above heart chakra and up. which means that, currently, that's the area that most of your energies and so most of your desires are focused. chiron/aesclipius, mercury/vulcan and admeitus/erechtheus chakras if you're wondering. i'd also add that this means that the chakras below that level, and hence their qualities and attributes, are less active than otherwise they would be. which includes the sexual side of things too btw.
| So this demon is a seperate entity? Not a part of me or some extension of myself? You're sure it's a male? Quote: |
and then you've got the godess coming in / about to come in. and she'll take up the space from the heart chakra down. and so you'll have two entities + derdekea in one form. you'll be a trinity babe! i'll also add that they'll come a time when you'll fight for dominance/posession of the form. more like a test of wills really. when this occurs, fight your own battle as far as you're able, but call on me if you like. i'd be happy to help out if you request it. as i see it, it *is* your form after all...
| Yesh, the unholy trinity.
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oh and finally re: the demon dude, just out of interest, why did you originally choose the name "derdekea"?
all the best babe,
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Originally Derdekea or Derdekeas was either a female or male (probably both) angel that brought salvation to mankind. Sort of a Jesus archetype I later discovered.
I chose the name because I like the sound, I like saying it, I like the way it looks, and the images it conjures, and the kinship I feel with the character of my story. (she was kind of the anti-saviour, though. long story). | |
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For the sake of repeating due to, oh well due to emphasis I'll post that specific post on here then too. I honestly hope you read all of it.
You said the operative word "share", to share with others what we believe, what we know, what we've remembered and experienced. Unfortunately throughout our communication you have failed to live up to that standard. You have not shared, you have "told", and you have presumed. You have told us "how it is", and at the same time you have told us we are wrong. Wrong because we disagree, wrong because we bring different insight to your version of the truth. That I find to be a gross display of ego at work. A Masterful mind, even one that knows implicitly Truths existing on many levels, understands that there exist possibilities beyond even his or her experience. This would allow for me to acknowledge that to you, your experience seems to be absolute truth, and I cannot claim that what you feel to be true indeed a falsity. I can however point out contradictions and I express a certain amount of wisdom which may or may not have an effect on your own experience. I do not however "tell" you to believe me, because I respect each Soul's personal journey and path that he or she has to follow.
I'm not too concerned with some of your claims, they have provided with great entertainment and unfortunately painted you to be a person of immense ego. As a component in the Spiritual structure of the Universal intelligence flowing through humankind into the earth, egoic thought has a valued place, but when functioning in isolation without the overview of the Spirit, its reasoning, prone as it is to fearful exaggeration, creates chaos, disorder and disease. Perceiving separation where none exists, imagining itself, its species, the plants, animals, even the world itself as existing in fundamental distinction, egoic thought separated from Spirit is devastating to people, to the environment, and to other life-forms who share that environment.
To claim to have a desire to have dominion over another exposes the egoic expression to an ultimate degree. To forego the expression of an individual Soul its rightful journey and choices is to proclaim oneself "better than", "more than" another being, and in true understanding of Ultimate Reality the Soul knows that there is no hierarchy. There is only One. To wish to eliminate the right of a Soul to come to transcendence through its own remembering is to imprison a Soul, to revoke the equality we all possess. You cannot "erase" my Karma even if you tried, Karma is a tool used during the journey of embracing Relative Reality. As is Astrology or any form of divination we have at hand to utilize throughout the experience of being Human. The moment you transcend to Ultimate Reality and see the illusion of Relative Reality Karma fails to have an affect, as does any other tool we have at our disposal. Being present in consciousness and in full awareness of Ultimate Reality we truly understand the perfection of Everything. There exists only Love and Truth within this ultimate realization. And once this process of Remembering has been reached we understand the process individual Souls have to endure in order to reach that state of Remembering, to reach Ultimate Reality. Those who are guiding humankind through the educational processes that precede awakening do occasionally channel (for the lack of a better word) energy through the structures of organized religion when the motives of those involved originate in Love and their intentions are for the common good. Besides the best of intentions, attempts to organize Spirituality almost always fall back upon themselves, masking the Spirit and occasionally even flipping over to become the embodiment of whatever they oppose.
By their nature Spiritual organizations are superfluous. They seek to do what is already done. A successful church is transitional, a stepping stone toward consciousness, not a rock upon which generations duplicate the mistakes of the past.
As I said before, I don't pay attention to your outlandish predictions, or past/future actions such as ruling the world, or having killed the Christian God. First of all, you cannot kill energy and if you wished to kill the Christian God you'd have to kill Christianity, for it's through Christianity that the notion of that God exists. Mythos and religion have both played part in the evolution of mankind. But these too are mere tools which lose all sense of importance when one reaches Ultimate Reality. As gods have been utilized to personify aspects of God/Source, so too has every human life. And for mankind to reach the levels to shift mass consciousness, individual experiences have to come to fruition, in their own way, through their own experiences. To orient your life around a structure of some other human being’s understanding is to worship a “false god”. It is to lock yourself into the framework of someone else’s prejudice, however well intentioned.
Those who tap into the consciousness and the dynamics of the shifts in Relative Reality are there to hold the space, hold the vibration of Love, to make it possible for the collective unconscious to open to the Universal message of Love. This is not done through violence, this is not done through murder and this is certainly not done through force or control. Only through the vibration of Love. The decision making resulting from human reliance on exclusively egoic thought has ample evidence of its inadequacy during the past millennia. Yet until now there was no other way (we had to believe in our separation to remember the Oneness again). The voluntary co-operation of human egos could not (and still cannot) be coerced. Therefore to display a desire to rule the world, to rule over another, to dictate what and who I am would be to go directly against the Divine Order of Love, it would be a violation of its most basic premise. And that is why I constantly reply to you. Whether any of your predictions do have validity is redundant to me, because you may very well have tapped into the collective unconscious to have been made privy of certain things. But at the core level of understanding the intricate yet at the same time simplistic mechanics of Ultimate Love, one fully understands and embraces even the most deplorable of human beings. Those whom we feel go against the very nature of Love and Compassion, there exist many people like that in the World, and being still very much an expression of Personality, it can be difficult to embrace these individuals and see ourselves in them. They are manifestations of the same Oneness as I am, as you are, as the rest of every single living entity. Understanding this seemingly basic truth I see the Divine Balance, the purpose for every action and reaction that takes place on this Planet.
In order for humanity to merge with its Highly Evolved Selves require for a mass shift in consciousness, without a question. But having one man be killed off does not make this happen. It happens in the realm of Spirit, it happens in the realm of Soul and then it happens in the realm of Mind. It is to be an integrated process, a process of seeing the illusions we have forged in order to bring us back to our original states of Perfection. You cannot force this process. It simply has to "happen"; we can assist by holding the space, by emanating the vibration of Love and Light, yes. The basic building blocks of instinctual logic are the same as those used by the ego’s slower reason, differing only in speed and accuracy. Yet to access the deep intuitive wisdom of the Life Force, one cannot demand such explanation or interrupt the flow of moments by insisting upon a step-by-step breakdown of the Spirit’s sublime analysis. One must simply trust and observe.
Spontaneity is a rational process in the constitution of Love. Its accuracy is unsurpassed. It is not clouded by fear-rooted emotions, cultural bias or addiction to linguistically structured thought. And thus the key is to live spontaneously, instinctually, to simply BE. Human design has emerged from the highest currents of a Supreme Intelligence. To funnel your expression of life through the narrowness of another’s anticipated response is the beginning of death. There is another way, its essence is Trust. To trust in the infinite perfection of creation, no matter how distorted or chaotic it seems, it is in harmony, every single moment there is purpose to every action and every occurrence. Which on a cerebral level can be very hard to compute. I enjoy discussions, I enjoy indulging my Mind and Personality, and therefore I get engrossed in discussions that are close to my heart. In through the understanding of Ultimate Reality and the perfection of creation I have to understand and embrace the horrors my mind protests against. Such as meat eating, wars and egomaniacal presidents. But I understand I have to embrace these things too, as everything has purpose. Below the level of conscious awareness, feel the information input of your surroundings flow freely in and out of your Soul. Feel it enter deep within you to be processed easily, autonomically, in accordance with Life’s design. (Not that of another’s)
When you relax and release your biology to flow in the uninhibited rhythmic currents of Love that animates all creation, your Life Force naturally organizes the data that flows through your center of observation. Masterfully, impeccably, it brings into your momentary awareness that what is most important to your Soul.
When you receive God, Love, Source, Oneness, you receive the consciousness that precedes all manifestation, limitless consciousness of Eternal Love that was from the beginning, is now and ever shall be- before, beyond, above and within Relationship (to All things).
Do not kill, do not destroy, maim, murder and ruin. In the end you do these things to yourself. There are no “others”. Only Oneness.
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Originally Posted by Veredus Well, I did just tell you he was dead, so it's only natural you'd say you had a strong connection to him. No offense, but I pretty much gave that to you and you didn't mention knowing my dad before now. | ah, ok, didn't get that. thought he'd just left your mum or moved elsewhere or something. whoops, guess i shd read things more carefully... Quote:
I used to have this picture of us together when I was 10 or something, and the similarities were (to me) remarkable. The same smile, same jawline, same hair. I loved that picture, but I don't have it anymore. Some unknown, sneaky, vindictive little f*cker decided it was necessary to steal all of my things.......ulgh. (May he die a slow painful death.)
So how's my dad doing anyway, if you know?
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Actually yes, I look different from my brother and my mother (both of which, for the record, I have mentioned on OF. Whether before or after you left I don't know). Yes my features are more refined (my uncle would say 'aristocratic'), but I chalk that up to being born a girl. Yes, my nose and cheekbones may be different, same for my forehead (which is not very square at all). But I haven't got a good picture of my dad around, so I couldn't really compare. Nor could I be honestly objective about my own features. I think you're right about my eyes, though. All in all, you've come closer than I expected.
Just out of curiosity, what colour do my eyes look to you? This isn't a loaded question, as my eyes appear differently to everyone. Just wondering. Testing a theory, if you will.
| not usually very good at eye colour except in special cases (check out eyez of horus fr'instance if you get the chance), but what i get on you is: dark. not brown, not green, not blue. dark. like maybe dark, dark brown. and, for some strange reason, gun-metal grey also. don't know why i get that grey one. contradictory i know... Quote: |
So this demon is a seperate entity? Not a part of me or some extension of myself? You're sure it's a male?
| well, i get it's in you already and it's part of you in a way. he seems quite cool and useful though. and he doesn't want to anihilate or harm you or anything. test / strengthen your will a bit maybe... there's kind of a respect there for you on his part. yeah, you could take it as an extension of yourself as i suppose as you two are already part-merged. it's kinda like what i got happening with the godess: merged as one yet still seperate.
not sure its male. just seemed that way to me as was very proud, rational, forceful and dynamic about how it went about things. kind of a male approach to my mind... Quote:
Yesh, the unholy trinity.
Wow, it's going to get crowded in here. If this happens, it should be quite interesting, though.
| yeah, especially when the whole olympian, egyptian and sumerian clan gets together. party time!!! lol and then we'll get round to the orgies... Quote:
I named a 'villain' in one of my stories Derdekea.
Originally Derdekea or Derdekeas was either a female or male (probably both) angel that brought salvation to mankind. Sort of a Jesus archetype I later discovered.
I chose the name because I like the sound, I like saying it, I like the way it looks, and the images it conjures, and the kinship I feel with the character of my story. (she was kind of the anti-saviour, though. long story).
| ahhh... on this note, what do your own investigations yield re: the demon dude? and do you think the name "derdekea" is connected to him/her in any way? just wondering...
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Originally Posted by Lillith For the sake of repeating due to, oh well due to emphasis I'll post that specific post on here then too. I honestly hope you read all of it. | yeah i did babe, it's a nice perspective.  can't say i agree with it all, but hey, you knew that already.  but it's well thought out, well researched and it is, like everything, true from a certain perspective within the reality. and it works well for your path at the moment.
ultimately you see, beliefs and perspectives are just tools with which to attain certain purposes. and depending on the nature of one's spirit and where within the creation one holds one's awareness, the truth looks different. and everybody's truth *is* different precisely because everybody's truth is true for them, and works for their path and their geometric position/viewpoint in the reality. indeed, it is one's perspective which most determines what role one plays in the reality.
so yeah, as those beliefs work well for you from your current perspective, that's cool. and it is a sweet outlook you've got. and i mean that in a nice way in case you were wondering.
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oh and btw lillith, thanks for keeping the off-topic stuff to this thread. appreciate it.
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Originally Posted by Oazaki ah, ok, didn't get that. thought he'd just left your mum or moved elsewhere or something. whoops, guess i shd read things more carefully... | Well truthfully all I said was that he was 'gone', so I could see how you'd be confused. I assumed that you would know from OF, as I can't seem to prevent myself from not mentioning it in certain threads. And when you you said you'd had a connection with him, I assumed you meant he was talking to you or visiting you or something. I assume too much. Quote: |
not usually very good at eye colour except in special cases (check out eyez of horus fr'instance if you get the chance), but what i get on you is: dark. not brown, not green, not blue. dark. like maybe dark, dark brown. and, for some strange reason, gun-metal grey also. don't know why i get that grey one. contradictory i know...
| Interesting. I asked because in dreams they are a sort of feral jade colour - like a panther's. Then in waking life the first moment I set eyes on a mirror I always see my eyes being a very dark, deep green - like green amber or tourmaline. Then on the second glance they return to being a mixture of green and rusty brown/red. In sunlight they are amber. People who casually look at me will say 'hazel' (what a cop out). It seems my eyes do turn grey when I am scared, though I've never observed this. A friend noticed this while at a roller coaster park. Hmm. Interesting. Eyes are fun. Quote:
ahhh... on this note, what do your own investigations yield re: the demon dude? and do you think the name "derdekea" is connected to him/her in any way? just wondering...
all the best babe,
Oazaki.
| Well, what you've been calling a demon, I've been calling an aspect of myself. Like a split in my personality, only...more. Different. It's like an entity unto itself, but still me. It's androgynous, really, though it does tend to lean towards being male. I simply call it by it's name and leave out the she/he bit. It is pretty much as you described it, but far, far darker. I think of it as my essential self - the way I really am - that I've been forced to deny for most of my life. I agree on the bit about the chakras, though I don't think that is directly related to it. I think that's just this me - the one that's been repressing myself. It's sexuality is quite strong and together we are quite ravenous. 
I think of my merging with it as simply merging with a truer version of myself. My Self at it's most pure.
Derdekea isn't it's name. Both of it's names are Roman (Latin).
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Originally Posted by Oazaki oh and btw lillith, thanks for keeping the off-topic stuff to this thread. appreciate it.
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It wasn't off topic at all it all relates to your Bush theories. | |
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Originally Posted by Oazaki yeah i did babe, it's a nice perspective.  can't say i agree with it all, but hey, you knew that already.  but it's well thought out, well researched and it is, like everything, true from a certain perspective within the reality. and it works well for your path at the moment.
ultimately you see, beliefs and perspectives are just tools with which to attain certain purposes. and depending on the nature of one's spirit and where within the creation one holds one's awareness, the truth looks different. and everybody's truth *is* different precisely because everybody's truth is true for them, and works for their path and their geometric position/viewpoint in the reality. indeed, it is one's perspective which most determines what role one plays in the reality.
so yeah, as those beliefs work well for you from your current perspective, that's cool. and it is a sweet outlook you've got. and i mean that in a nice way in case you were wondering.
all the best babe,
Oazaki. | You do realize you've just defied all your sentiments by what you just said right there. Are you back-tracking now? Hmm more than likely not. The fact that the certain messages I shared with you is considered "perspectives" by you and seemingly doesn't hold much value is very telling I must say. Of course you wouldn't "agree" with it, and of course you would be condescending and call it "sweet". Because your egoic manifestation cannot allow for Ultimate Truth to penetrate beyond the parameters of your immediate desires and wishful thinking. It's not a judgment, it's just an observation. And it's not down to "research" by the way, I find that an odd comment to say the least.
Yes, truth is relative, truth in Relative Reality is very subjective to an individual's path, hence which is why the process of acquiring consciousness cannot be forced, or attained by killing off a president.
The point you seem to fail to grasp is that your desire to manipulate goes against the principles at work in Ultimate Reality, and if you knew anything at all no matter on which level your consciousness vibrates on, you would be aware of this truth. | |
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Originally Posted by Oazaki ah, ok, didn't get that. thought he'd just left your mum or moved elsewhere or something. whoops, guess i shd read things more carefully... |
I have to say that for someone who works on Astral levels and psychic manifestations, not knowing that someone is no longer incarnate is rather more than a mere "whoops". | |
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She's got a point there, Oazaki. I can only assume (again) that he would look a bit different from the rest of my family still living. | |
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Originally Posted by Lillith I have to say that for someone who works on Astral levels and psychic manifestations, not knowing that someone is no longer incarnate is rather more than a mere "whoops". | well, usually i pick up on people being alive or dead, but the last 5 months have been... rather different in this regard. also, like i said, it's not like i just know everything automatically. i know what i look for, what i seek to find the truth of. and it simply didn't occur to me to look if he was alive or dead.
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hmmmm, green eyes, interesting. have to admit i didn't get that.
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Originally Posted by Veredus Well, what you've been calling a demon, I've been calling an aspect of myself. Like a split in my personality, only...more. Different. It's like an entity unto itself, but still me. It's androgynous, really, though it does tend to lean towards being male. I simply call it by it's name and leave out the she/he bit. It is pretty much as you described it, but far, far darker. I think of it as my essential self - the way I really am - that I've been forced to deny for most of my life. I agree on the bit about the chakras, though I don't think that is directly related to it. I think that's just this me - the one that's been repressing myself. It's sexuality is quite strong and together we are quite ravenous. 
I think of my merging with it as simply merging with a truer version of myself. My Self at it's most pure. | it's not you, not at a deep spirit level. just as the godess that's coming ain't you. check this for yourself and be very certain of it. but all three souls will merge, learn from one another, and then seperate agian come 2013. during this process it would be of benefit if you flowed with the merging and the associated changes yet nevertheless maintained a very clear, and strong, sense of self, of who you yourself really are. kinda a paradoxical way to live, i know, but the deepest truths are always the union of opposites and appear at first glance to be paradoxical.
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Originally Posted by Oazaki well, usually i pick up on people being alive or dead, but the last 5 months have been... rather different in this regard. also, like i said, it's not like i just know everything automatically. i know what i look for, what i seek to find the truth of. and it simply didn't occur to me to look if he was alive or dead.
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You've got me slightly baffled, well not really... But I am amazed that you would even put it down to "alive or dead". And it's also not about "knowing everything automatically", it's about the fact that when one works on the Astral levels, when one works on the Spirit planes and when one works psychically you definitely know when a being is incarnate or not. There is no "whoops I thought he merely went on holiday" in the literal sense of the word. One would know immediately, especially you considering all the claims you have about yourself, when someone is no longer incarnate. | |
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Originally Posted by Lillith The fact that the certain messages I shared with you is considered "perspectives" by you and seemingly doesn't hold much value is very telling I must say. | well, you are perceiving the reality from within your own personality, soul and value system babe, so it's a perspective, your perspective. or did you think it was coincidence how closely your view of the nature of the creation fits in with your own values and ethics? | |