I've heard that this movie is very interesting, I have yet to watch it myself but I'm sure it will incite some interesting debate since Religion is such a huge issue. I do know that it's about the indoctrination of young people into Christianity . . . Something that I just cannot bring myself to support.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...sus+Camp&hl=en

how are young people indoctrinated into Christianity in this society. also what do you find threating about it?

In my ideal world, Christians would exist but they would have to arrive at the choice through the concept being presented to them in a completely neutral fashion. Rather then being told that it's the only way to live their lives and that they risk Divine Punishment if they refuse.
I'll have to get back to you on your second question as I am still watching the video (I'm on Dial-up here).

I haven't watched the video, and I doubt I'll have the time, but it doesn't matter.

It is both the right, and the duty, of parents to indoctrinate their children with their faith and morality. I can't believe you're actually saying that's a bad thing.

What about Muslim Extremists?

my favorite part was when that little girl prayed for a strike at the bowling alley.

i love alden...the only thing i saw that was concerning was the lady and the cut out bush doll..not because she was having them pray for bush, but she's encouraging the use of idols.

i myself go to an evangical church, it's a tiny, new church with wonderful people around my age and a lot of happy, smiling children running around...what i like about them versus other, denominations is they don't care how you worship Gd, just that you accept Him and His Son absolutely, and they do encourage prayer, but if you love someone, you do talk to them.

i would never send my daughters to a place like that, i would not trust people i did not know to teach my daughter things i'm just now finding out for myself, there's too much blasphemy, anger and hatred justified by people who think they are Gdly, and using stories inspired and formed by early jews and their personal relationship with Him, as spiritual law.

but that's why i'm getting involved with starting a childrens church in our church...there are some concept no matter how bright the child is they can't comprehend, yet.

the problem with a lot of people that i find make christianity a negative thing, aren't in tune with Gd, they try to judge man based on their expecations, who has any right to judge us, but our Maker?

and i do agree people should come to it in their own way, even the bible speaks of that and states to not change those Gd calls back, He called them as they were.

christianity isn't all bad...it's not like you have a bunch of fluffy bunnies running around acting like high and mighty wizards because the bought a few books and burn some candles preaching the three fold law like some crazed halleywell sister, while asking questions on how to summon spirits, with no practical knowledge of defense.

i'll take Gd any day...oh, wait, i did.

This is perhaps the most ludacris idea I have ever heard. Lets adopt this stratgey for all young people all things most be presented neutraly for them to choose. Lets start with laws heres the pros and cons if you break em oh well no big deal.

What I think bothers me the most about anti Chrstian sentiment is the attempt to paint the life style as terrible. The faith boils down to love your family, respect eveyone and be charitable with your life. Whats so bad about that?

Are there historical aspects of man doing evil opun man. of course is religion the cause or is it simply the nature of man to do "evil"?

exactly it is not given to man to sit in judgement of other men.

Yaaay more Christian bashing... Liberal athiests love to push thier religion on us, why is it allowed?

Mohammad Camp:

Extremist being the key word right?

I'm not familiar with any muslims who are more extreme than any other muslims.

But YES, them too. It is both their right and duty to indoctrinate their offspring into the evil and sickness that is their religion, including telling their girls that they are inferior in the eye of Allah, peace be upon him.

It's our duty to kill them.

Unless they're causing the child physical harm via beating those who don't take to the indoctrination, making them stay awake for three days while having "Jesus is My Lord" blasted in their ears, or some other crap, and unless they're actively encouraging crimes such as attacking non-believers, then it's their right to practice this however they want. Doesn't matter whether or not I support it.


As it happens, I do find some aspects of it slightly creepy. Less so the zealous aspects of it than those that are just stereotypical redneck. I don't like picking on people for putting on a few pounds, but I'm starting to question why every big representative of conservative christianity looks like a beached whale. I used to actually hang out with a bunch of evangelical baptists in a youth group, and I never got hassled for differences in religion or had anyone raise their voice at me, even when I explained why I thought Hell was a myth and the moral codes against homosexuality were outdated and stone-age. These people were very serious Christians, but they were actually evangelical and trying to reach people. When you go to a camp of nothing but hardcore Christians and start doing weapons training and talking about being God Warriors... well... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCODIhAXbQM

If she's a Gd warrior, i hope He gives the rest of us ear muffs.