Ok.. If we are to believe the Adam and Eve story (I do) then we know that we are an alien species to this earth sent here from paradise.

Humans were not meant to be here in the first place so this is not our natural ecosystem thus it cannot us support us if we live like we want to live.

Humans want to create, build, change and use up natural resources quickly to create, build, change etc. How ever Earth cannot cope with us and cannot recover fast enough so all the pollution stuff happened.

If humans were not here then the world would be living peacefully, The circle of life would be completing. Everyone would have enough food, and everything will be in perfect harmony

What happened when rabbits were introduced in australia, they had no natural predators so they reproduced so much that the place was over run with rabbits. Thats what happens when ecosystem is tampered with.

Now Humans were introduced into the Earths Eco System. A place totally not made for humans. Thus not a paradise.

God sent down messengers telling us how to live so that we don't harm ourselves by living the way we were used to.

When one weight trains he/she restricts movement and makes it harder to move thus making the muscles stronger. We are making our souls stronger by restricting the way we live only to make us stronger. Thus the training of the soul.

Now the main point... Heaven is going to be a place where humans will be able to live like they want to live. The atmosphere will cope with our building and destructive natural. We will be able to do what ever we want with out damaging anything and with out over populating the place.. or polluting anything.. or running out of food.. because that place is meant to support us and was created for us. Thus it is a Paradise.

Thats how I see it.. Gimme your comments.

This theory of mine does not contradict anything that I know of.

Beam me up... we're goin home.. hehe

Hmm I see, when did you escape from the insitution?j/k:p

A World where we all live in harmony without fear of our acts causing long term harm.

It's a place called Utopia.

By adjusting our natures in line with the universe, we can perhaps create such a place of freedom.

Remember the wood lets you cut it. It lets itself suffer. But only if you work WITH the grain.


Neon

hey all.

also, utopia is defined as:

"an imaginary and indefinitely remote place."

and

"...a place of ideal perfection..." (perfection does not exist)

and

"an impractical scheme for social improvement."

just things to keep in mind. Neon made it sound almost attainable. I dunno. to me, by the above definitions, it just sounds dumb. most of us live in a DYSTOPIA, at least in some way.

things to think about.

If anything, I believe Earth seeded extraterrestrial life. There is the theory that when the dinosaur's were in the process of becoming extinct, everything went off in mass explosion's, and disaster... I forget who's theory i actually was, but in involves a chunk of earth shot to Mar's. A chunk of earth containing earth organism's that could've easily evolved from there. But, anyway. What about Evolution against Intelligent Design? Its the basic Religon Vs. Science idea. Has Everything scientists uncovered false, if intelligent design took place?

i dont like the adam and eve story cuz it makes it sound like humans are all related and that we are all doing insest...

Yeah.. Utopia is not possible on this world cuz this world cannot sustain us. Heaven is supposed to be paradise right? so is it a world which can sustain us?


And it may be true that the earth seeded other parts of the universe but where did life come to earth from?

The Universe was created and since it is part of the physical universe it has to be created using Scientific methods. If you believe in God then he created thoese scientific methods and to work in this universe he must abide by them. Evolution does take place... since it is a part of the intelligent design.. Thats how I see it kinda few flaws in it I guess.. but I'm still searching.

Heaven can be whatever you want it to be (if you believe in it) as long as the word "good" is in there somewhere. if it wasn't good, it would be bad, and bad is Hell. is my logic flawed? someone disprove me or something.

"And it may be true that the earth seeded other parts of the universe but where did life come to earth from?"

how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop? one...two...three... *CRUNCH*

3. 3 is the answer. ::nods::

we'll never know, dude. you could say God. but if you don't believe in that, we'll never know. no one was there, it was never documented, etc, etc. I wish we could know but we won't. ever.

intelligent design. hmm. :: ponders ::

later.

yup...

I kinda like the idea that Evolution is the intelligent design.

Scientists are finding out how God made the physical universe to work to evolve creatures.. and evolution makes a lot of sense. God is a mathematician and a scientist. thats how I see it.

hehe I know.. It sounds icky doesnt it, cousin?

i believe it would be pretty hard to find someone you are not distantly related to anymore...maybe easier in the states, since that is a newer country. some scientists estimated that 70% of all norwegians (not counting immigrants) would be able to trace their family back to the same man, a norwegian king who lived around the year 1000 somewhere...he had kids all over the place, at least 30 that he acknowledged, and god knows how many else...so were basically just one big happy family down here.

That is where Intelligent Design comes in... the theory that everything was made by some devine creator. That's where Im trying to get to...Evolution, or Intelligent Design?There is no chance they both could've co-created , becuz they contradict eachother.

Maybe in order to keep the rules of the physical universe the first fully evolved people were adam and eve.


A teacher of mine told me that most caucasions (spellings?) in the USA can traced to seven women. I dunno... maybe..

my mom has this reallllly old family tree of our family and I'm like so messed up.. hehe I'm part persian, greek, indian and turkish.. hehe.. maybe some other races too..

its gotten to where now days everybody is a mix of a lil bit of everything...

im not. my grandmother traced our family back to the 15th century. all norwegians. the only immigrants in my family are inlaws.

"hehe I'm part persian, greek, indian and turkish.. hehe.. maybe some other races too"

They're not races, they're nationalities. Race is like Caucasion, Negro, Asian, Latino, & Aboriginal. btw a Brazilian friend told me that his nationality is a mix of African & Portugese.

And the only way I know of to exercise your soul (interesting turn of phrase) is by practicing magic...

umm.. so whats the turkish race call.. and whats the greek race called? and what about the indian race?

Spaceghost: Why can't Evolution be part of Intelligent Design.. if it was part of the original Plan?

I believe that we create our own heaven and our own hell. Humans are adaptable, that's part of what's so cool about us.. If we can just get off our collective, pretentious asses (i include myself in this) then i believe we can create heaven in this world. The only problem is, getting large groups of humans to set aside their differences long enough to agree on what's important and what to do about it is about as easy as herding 100 kittens that have been into the kitty equivalent of LSD..