I think he's right, but there's one thing he didn't address. The "environment as religion" people are also the tools of other people who are using it as a path to increase the power of government.

you sure they're not just the tools of the Jews?

Closer to the "useful idiots" or "fellow travelers" of the communists.

but aren't the communists tools of the Jews themselves?

You should ask FriendOfFriend that question.

I thought you didn't agree with him

" I can tell you that the DDT ban has caused the deaths of tens of millions of poor people, mostly children...."



Yeah, I guess it wasn't the exploitation after all.

"Today, one of the most powerful religions in the Western World is environmentalism. Environmentalism seems to be the religion of choice for urban atheists. Why do I say it's a religion? Well, just look at the beliefs. If you look carefully, you see that environmentalism is in fact a perfect 21st century remapping of traditional Judeo-Christian beliefs and myths.

There's an initial Eden, a paradise, a state of grace and unity with nature, there's a fall from grace into a state of pollution as a result of eating from the tree of knowledge, and as a result of our actions there is a judgment day coming for us all. We are all energy sinners...."

etc.

That is pure garbage, demonizing propaganda, nothing more.

What the hell does he mean by 'environmentalism' there, anyway? Does he honestly think that someone who shows the least little concern for the enviornment believes in that crap? Seems to be what he'd like the reader to think, anyway.

"Look at the beliefs.".....what beliefs? is there some holy text containing all 'enviornmentalist' beliefs?

Goebbels would be proud.

Environmentalism would best serve as a philosophy, rather than a religion, given the one temple we all share and that sustains us, is the environment.
Where as now, relative to this discussion, if environmentalism were to be a religion, governments, special interests and toxic polluter corporations, to name just a few, example themselves as either agnostic or atheist, in that regard.

I suppose if one were to subscribe to the Gaea Hypothesis, and regard the Earth as a conscious entity, that might cross the line into religion...

However, to say that anyone who subscribes to environmental practices, such as conservation, ecological impact assessment, and recycling, is part of a religion, well...no.

I believe that dubbing environmentalism as another form of (organized) religion is just another means to hold it up to slander and structuralist ridicule. Especially the way the opinions tend to fly on this forum.

I also think that Crighton is being a little too rigid in his "anthropological perspectives"..

He's proposing that environmentalism should be viewed in some sort of "secular religious" context. I think he just reads the dictionary too much, to be quite frank.

Just because you believe in something deeply, doesn't mean you subscribe to it in a religious manner or form. You can share the same attributes, but please, don't dumb it down for all of us.

p.s. Qoji is god.

well if you chose to beleive in something religiously, hten you ahve jsut made it a religion.

so it is msotly up to the persons want. after all, isnt necisity the mother of all creation?

Well, not exactly. In order to be a religion, it has to meet certain qualifications as per the definition of a religion (a sociological definition, that is.) People use the term "religiously" to refer to something they do on a regular basis. Well, I take a piss on a regular basis. That doesn't make it my religion though, does it?

"Necessity is the mother of invention" was the quote you were looking for. I tend to disagree. Laziness is the mother of invention, in my opinion.

but they are often times referred to as green nazis in areas that tend to prefer to keep their natural resources free from restrictions.