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A chara Thanks for replying Crypt. Well I sniffed out the questions in your thread and now I'm gonna answer. Am I open-minded? That comes down to cultural and individual interpretation. If being closed-minded is being rebellious against what the media dictates to us as right, then yes I am closed-minded. If being closed-minded is accepting God's Word as true then yes according to this subjective interpretation of yours, then yes again I'm labelled as being closed-minded. And I don't think believing the Bible to be a piece of fiction makes you anymore open-minded. And as for Christians invading the forum- well maybe christians just find your opinions interesting! And anyway the smilies aren't as cool on their sites. I mean where else can you get such a grooving bat out of hell?
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what i was referring to is that most christians are close minded to the bibble being translated inproperly. They take todays bibble as being the exact word of yahweh regardless of the contradictions that i have presented. and i care for anything unstained has to say? maybe i shall just say i will see Him tormented in hell. Ahhh, i'm truly touched, you love me... You can look at it as a metaphor for the fleeting nature of human life, or just chalk it up to my being a sick, bloodthirsty monster. Either way, it's all the same.
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closed minded to me is refusing to see any truths other than what you've made for yourself..kind of not being willing to look out of the box...it doesn't matter what it is about...an open minded person is firm enough in what they believe to listen to another's opinion and say "you may have something there and it makes sense, but...not many of those you say are "interested" in our opinion seem so, but more like they just want to say you're all wrong because you don't believe like us...that's what I get from most of the "invaders" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | |
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Quote: Originally posted by Jordyn closed minded to me is refusing to see any truths other than what you've made for yourself..kind of not being willing to look out of the box...it doesn't matter what it is about...an open minded person is firm enough in what they believe to listen to another's opinion and say "you may have something there and it makes sense, but...not many of those you say are "interested" in our opinion seem so, but more like they just want to say you're all wrong because you don't believe like us...that's what I get from most of the "invaders" |
I have looked out of the box, as a matter of fact I was living there for 21 years. I decided this was the right way.
If I wasnt firm in what I believe then I wouldnt be here talking to you about it.
But turn this back at you, do you think we have a valid reason for believing what we believe? "you may have something there and it makes sense"
Most sceptics just look at what they can find wrong, no matter how small it is. A lamp is not brought to be put under a basket, is it, or under a bed? Is it not brought to be put on the lamstand?
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Quote: Originally posted by Crypt what i was referring to is that most christians are close minded to the bibble being translated inproperly. They take todays bibble as being the exact word of yahweh regardless of the contradictions that i have presented. and i care for anything unstained has to say? maybe i shall just say i will see Him tormented in hell. Ahhh, i'm truly touched, you love me... | I have said this before a few times, I see why you would think that the bible has contradictions.
From what I see on the list there might just be some, I cannot say for sure untill I talk to some experts and get there opinion first.
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Even those contradictions are more like errors, typos, misunderstandings.
Its like hearing a sermon, the pastor is inspired by God but he will still make a mistake or two, but the message is still valid.
But I will say it again I CAN'T SAY IF THEY ARE CONTRADICTIONS UNTILL I GET SOME ADVICE. A lamp is not brought to be put under a basket, is it, or under a bed? Is it not brought to be put on the lamstand?
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you have every right to believe what you do...but when it comes to a point of condemning, critisizing and harrassing those who don't believe as you do that's when it stops being just a believer and becoming close-minded...I to had the whole "god" experience and hold nothing against him...he had his time and influence over my life, but the hypocrisy and the descrepencies I found for myself disillusioned me from the church...god is good, church is not... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | |
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Quote: Originally posted by Jordyn you have every right to believe what you do...but when it comes to a point of condemning, critisizing and harrassing those who don't believe as you do that's when it stops being just a believer and becoming close-minded...I to had the whole "god" experience and hold nothing against him...he had his time and influence over my life, but the hypocrisy and the descrepencies I found for myself disillusioned me from the church...god is good, church is not... | What religion were you?
Dont you remember how Paul wrote letters warning and teaching other churchs how to believe and how not to.
My church is growing, it doesnt know everything.
It was conservative untill a Andrew Wormack came in and gave us the proper teachings on spiritual gifts, which alot of American churchs think went out with the Apostles.
The hardest people I find to pray for are sometimes Christians.
They tell me of a health problem and I say I can pray for it to be healed, they just brush me off sometimes.
But others are like, why not lets see if it works.
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Quote: Originally posted by Jordyn you have every right to believe what you do...but when it comes to a point of condemning, critisizing and harrassing those who don't believe as you do that's when it stops being just a believer and becoming close-minded...I to had the whole "god" experience and hold nothing against him...he had his time and influence over my life, but the hypocrisy and the descrepencies I found for myself disillusioned me from the church...god is good, church is not... | In this statement you are "critisizing" believers for not believing like you.
I dont have the right to condemn, critisize, or even harrass?
If I were to come at you with a knife, would you condemn me with a gun?
If I said somethig you didnt like or did like, would you critiseze it?
If I came into your job and started to bother you, would you harrass me out of the place? A lamp is not brought to be put under a basket, is it, or under a bed? Is it not brought to be put on the lamstand?
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Closed minded-Intolerant of the beliefs and opinions of others, stubbornly unreceptive to new ideas.
Well thats the dictionary definition but it seems to me from the way the terms been used on other conversations like its more a case of a closed minded person is one who admits they`re not willing to believe everything. Work is of two kinds: first, altering the position of matter at or near the earth's surface relatively to other such matter; second, telling other people to do so.
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Quote: Originally posted by RedMeat Closed minded-Intolerant of the beliefs and opinions of others, stubbornly unreceptive to new ideas.
Well thats the dictionary definition but it seems to me from the way the terms been used on other conversations like its more a case of a closed minded person is one who admits they`re not willing to believe everything. |
I am not sure of the total meaning of this message.
It is impossible to believe in everything.
Its ok to murder, wait I am so open minded its not ok to murder, wait a second....... ok I got it, wait I just lost it in all of this open mindedness.
I believe it is ok to be close minded on somethings. A lamp is not brought to be put under a basket, is it, or under a bed? Is it not brought to be put on the lamstand?
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I think you got it alright. Just wait until some murderer says you`re closed minded because you dont think his killings are justifiable, or if you take one side strongly in anything of that sort.You`ll think its pointless to argue since everything`s relitive and therefore everythings valid no matter how crazy it sounds. Work is of two kinds: first, altering the position of matter at or near the earth's surface relatively to other such matter; second, telling other people to do so.
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In this statement you are "critisizing" believers for not believing like you...no!...i'm condemning the church...is a church necessary to worship? kneeling, singing, praying, and preaching is that necessary to worship? giving money and supporting a brick and wood building that cost more money to build than most homes is necessary for worship? that's what i'm critisizing...if people are happy with what they believe and don't try to tell me i'm wrong than I am glad they are able to find peace...
I dont have the right to condemn, critisize, or even harrass? oh anyone can do it, but it's not nice...
If I were to come at you with a knife, would you condemn me with a gun? I practice with swords so I'd do a graceful dodge and implant a sword deep within you, or laugh as you fell on your face
If I said somethig you didnt like or did like, would you critiseze it?no I'd ignore you like most others...
If I came into your job and started to bother you, would you harrass me out of the place? No i'd mention it to my supervisors and let them deal with it...besides we have cute security guards here, it'd be fun watching them get active...sadly they have no handcuffs...but they could always borrow mine...pink fuzzy ones  To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | |
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Quote: Originally posted by TheLight
It is impossible to believe in everything.
Its ok to murder, wait I am so open minded its not ok to murder, wait a second....... ok I got it, wait I just lost it in all of this open mindedness.
I believe it is ok to be close minded on somethings. | I believe in everything, and until it's proven not to exist I will still believe in it, ask mr. skeptical about the power of my belief *winks to red* and killing is okay, but senseless murder is not and if they do kill an innocent the "wrong doer" should be put to immediate death before they have a chance to murder again...but i'm not much of a turn the other cheek type... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | |
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Quote: Originally posted by Jordyn In this statement you are "critisizing" believers for not believing like you...no!...i'm condemning the church...is a church necessary to worship? kneeling, singing, praying, and preaching is that necessary to worship? giving money and supporting a brick and wood building that cost more money to build than most homes is necessary for worship? that's what i'm critisizing...if people are happy with what they believe and don't try to tell me i'm wrong than I am glad they are able to find peace...
I dont have the right to condemn, critisize, or even harrass? oh anyone can do it, but it's not nice...
If I were to come at you with a knife, would you condemn me with a gun? I practice with swords so I'd do a graceful dodge and implant a sword deep within you, or laugh as you fell on your face
If I said somethig you didnt like or did like, would you critiseze it?no I'd ignore you like most others...
If I came into your job and started to bother you, would you harrass me out of the place? No i'd mention it to my supervisors and let them deal with it...besides we have cute security guards here, it'd be fun watching them get active...sadly they have no handcuffs...but they could always borrow mine...pink fuzzy ones | See you would condemn me with a sword.
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Quote: Originally posted by Jordyn
I believe in everything, and until it's proven not to exist I will still believe in it, ask mr. skeptical about the power of my belief *winks to red* and killing is okay, but senseless murder is not and if they do kill an innocent the "wrong doer" should be put to immediate death before they have a chance to murder again...but i'm not much of a turn the other cheek type... |
It is impossible to believe in everything.
Murder and kill are two different things.
What I was talking about was murdering a kid, and then changing your mind and not murdering the next, then changing your mind again.
Turn the whole cheek thing, has to do with insults not physical harm attacks.
If you called me names, I wouldnt be bothered with it, but if you attack me intending on killing or harming me, then I would put you into pink fuzzy handcuffs and have a little fun with you. 
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no that's not condemnation but self defense...you attacked me first...so why should I stand there and take it? i'm not jesus...it'd be up to the gods to condemn you and me for my action, if condemnation is necessary for the actions...and yes!...quite often right up there with my whips, knives, blindfolds and ritualistic sexual practices...but that's what the dark erotica forum is for...for clarification purposes...
con·demn Pronunciation Key (kn-dm)
tr.v. con·demned, con·demn·ing, con·demns
To express strong disapproval of: condemned the needless waste of food.
To pronounce judgment against; sentence: condemned the felons to prison.
To judge or declare to be unfit for use or consumption, usually by official order: condemn an old building.
To lend credence to or provide evidence for an adverse judgment against: were condemned by their actions.
Law. To appropriate (property) for public use.
nothing about self defense and attack here...so maybe you should brush up on your spelling and dictionary meanings before trying to use an arguement that is...not applicable To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | |
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If you murder someone you are in danger of being condemned by the law and put to death are you not?
I was using that as an example.
The whole selfdefense thing came from the turn the other cheek thing that you mentioned. You were mistaken to its meaning.
Now enough with this, and tell me more about you pink fuzzy cuff storys.
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Quote: Originally posted by TheLight If you murder someone you are in danger of being condemned by the law and put to death are you not?
I was using that as an example.
The whole selfdefense thing came from the turn the other cheek thing that you mentioned. You were mistaken to its meaning.
Now enough with this, and tell me more about you pink fuzzy cuff storys.
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