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Clearwitch: Christianity discussion. - 07-23-02

That other thread was about "whats your religion".
So I wanted a fresh thread. Now I can answer your questions better. I have been working alot so Ill post when I can, sometimes I cant answer a question very fast, I have to dig deep into my bible.


Now you were saying that Jesus never said he was God.
Something about me and pride.
And some others that Im forgetting.


Now Jesus never said the words, "I am God".
But he said the other things, that proved he was telling them that he is God but in different terms.
Also noone asked him, "are you God?". If they did he would have to say yes.

He said baptize them in the name of the Father, Son , and Holy Ghost.
Who is the holy ghost?
And why didnt he just say "in the name of the Father"?
Who is going to judge us?
If Jesus was only a profit, then why do we have to go throu him to get to the Father?
Why did he say he had the same power for life and death as the Father?
And what about the angle who said he would be called Emanual, meaning God with Us?


Now you say I have pride.
But I believe that I have the same gifts as Christ did, and not only me but everyone.Prophecy, healing, miracles, tongues, teaching, evanglest, and others.
We just have to develope, or learn how to use them.
We are created in Gods image and Jesus is the example of that image.
  
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then why on the cross did he say "father, why have you forsaken me"?


You can look at it as a metaphor for the fleeting nature of human life, or just chalk it up to my being a sick, bloodthirsty monster. Either way, it's all the same.

I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person

" It is easier to write words on water then to try to use argument on a christian"
  
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Jesus had to pay the price for our sins, he redeemed us by himself, and he gets full credit.
This is something the Jews dont understand(from what I understand of the Jews), they expected a warrior king like David to come back. He will be much more than that on the second return.

But he first had to redeem us, and the only way to do that is to pay the price. What you think he would have cheated and used some sort of anaesthetic on the cross.
He took that punishment for you and I, when he didnt deserve it.

I believe that hell is a seperation from God, and I believe that Jesus went there as part of the price.


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For nothing is hidden, except to revealed; nor has anything been secret, but that it would come to light. Mark 4:21+24
  
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07-23-02

that doesn't answer my question


You can look at it as a metaphor for the fleeting nature of human life, or just chalk it up to my being a sick, bloodthirsty monster. Either way, it's all the same.

I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person

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CRYPT.... anyone who can't answer that question who claims to be a Christina needs to reexamine his or her beliefs. This is not my opinion... this is basic dogma. Jesus cried out blasphemy on the cross because Jesus is both human and divine. What would you be shouting abotu on the cross, CRYPT? Light?



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i am not a christian, and again that question has not been answered. i would not be crying for forgivness, as i know which way i am going when i die.


You can look at it as a metaphor for the fleeting nature of human life, or just chalk it up to my being a sick, bloodthirsty monster. Either way, it's all the same.

I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person

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Re: Clearwitch: Christianity discussion. - 07-23-02

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Originally posted by TheLight
That other thread was about "whats your religion".
So I wanted a fresh thread. Now I can answer your questions better. I have been working alot so Ill post when I can, sometimes I cant answer a question very fast, I have to dig deep into my bible.


Now you were saying that Jesus never said he was God.
Something about me and pride.
And some others that Im forgetting.


Now Jesus never said the words, "I am God".
But he said the other things, that proved he was telling them that he is God but in different terms.
Also noone asked him, "are you God?". If they did he would have to say yes.

He said baptize them in the name of the Father, Son , and Holy Ghost.
Who is the holy ghost?
And why didnt he just say "in the name of the Father"?
Who is going to judge us?
If Jesus was only a profit, then why do we have to go throu him to get to the Father?
Why did he say he had the same power for life and death as the Father?
And what about the angle who said he would be called Emanual, meaning God with Us?


Now you say I have pride.
But I believe that I have the same gifts as Christ did, and not only me but everyone.Prophecy, healing, miracles, tongues, teaching, evanglest, and others.
We just have to develope, or learn how to use them.
We are created in Gods image and Jesus is the example of that image.
Ummm.... what and what???? at least Sam makes sense when he rambles...... you should just follow and leave the prosalytizing to the professionals......



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07-23-02

Crypt you never answered my questions.

And I did answer your question.
What does forsaken mean?
It means to leave someone or something.

God the Father left Jesus spiritualy, and that was Jesus's biggest pain. That was the hell part I was telling you.

I dont know this sam, maybe he is better at this than I am.
That dont mean I dont have a right to talk. Nice try.


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you asked me a question?


You can look at it as a metaphor for the fleeting nature of human life, or just chalk it up to my being a sick, bloodthirsty monster. Either way, it's all the same.

I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person

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Crypt you never answered my questions.

And I did answer your question.
What does forsaken mean?
It means to leave someone or something.

God the Father left Jesus spiritualy, and that was Jesus's biggest pain. That was the hell part I was telling you.

I dont know this sam, maybe he is better at this than I am.
That dont mean I dont have a right to talk. Nice try.
Wow.... you are as bright as a 25watt lightbulb..... yes you do have the right to say exactly whatever the hell you want when you want to.... as do I.... and I think that your posts are not very well thought out.....

First of all... jesus never even in any way stated anything close to the fact that he was God..... he only insisted that he was the son of god.... big dif there...... than you follow that up with a bunch of rhetorical questions...... which I am sure you have the answer too...... yet in leaving them unanswered you only leave yourself wide open for criticism...... which is what i am giving you....

Post what you like..... as Dear Guy-Person has learned..... hehe.... I will post what I like in kind.... and also in unkind... lol...



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07-23-02

The questions krypt are on the first post.
Noone ever asked if Jesus was God, atleast not to his face in scriptures.

I meant for this thread to be for clearwitch, so if your going to be on it, please answer the questions, or atleast try.


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as this is a open message board i have every right to post here. You felt you had every right to invade the thread i started and sprout how you were going to prove everything i have stated, but yet i see nothing. I do not venture into the religion forum to often, but i also do not see you as an individual that has a massed inteligence about the christian religion.


You can look at it as a metaphor for the fleeting nature of human life, or just chalk it up to my being a sick, bloodthirsty monster. Either way, it's all the same.

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I have only been a Christian for 7 years.
I still have so much to learn.

I never said you didnt have a right to post here, I was just asking you to please answer my questions.


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and i have been a Satanist for 20 years


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How do you know there is a creature called satan?
Do you have to become dead again(born again) to goto hell?


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how do you know there is a bastard called jehovah?
what kinda questions are those?


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I know there is a God because he talks to me.I have a personal relationship with Jesus. He teachs me his ways, he taught me how to get prayers answered.He taught me why the world is the way it is. He has much to teach me, and I cant wait.

I always wonder when people say that they believe in satan, do they really or are they just haveing some fun?

I mean, who would really want to goto a place of torment for eternity. Do you have a book saying that satan is going to over throw the Kingdom of God?
And if so, how can the created beat the creater?

So I really want to know about you and your religion, since this is the first time I have met one, if you are who you say your are.


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i see another individual lead by blind faith. Your books is nothing but a book of lies, oh and on a side note i have never seen it said that hell is a place of torment. I do not believe what the bibble has told us, i do not believe in the word of god. I think you hearing the words from christ or his idiotic father is nothing more then schisophrenzia. If i wasn't a Satanist i wouldn't have said it, nor would i have posted the bibblical contradictions.


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Have you ever scene or talked to satan?
Do you have blind faith?


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