Dear (RedMeat)

Thank you for completing your personality test via the email. your results are now available for you to recive in a one to one consultation. Please give me a call and we can arrange an appointment. looking forward to hearing from you.

Yours sincerely
(Some Scientology guy)




http://www.factnet.org/Scientology/dianetics.html

http://www.scientology.org/home.html

About time there was a thread about these guys.

uh...

what the heck is that? I clicked on the link, but...

They are a religous movement based upon the teachings of L. Ron Hubbard.

are you part of it or mocking it or what?

"Scientology is a religion which recognizes that man is basically good and offers tools anyone can use to become happier and more able as a person and to improve conditions in life for himself and others, and to gain a profound understanding of the Supreme Being and his relationship to the Divine. Developed by L. Ron Hubbard, Scientology technology provides exact principles and a practical technology for improving spiritual awareness, self-confidence, intelligence and ability."

already I disagree with it. I mean, it's cool they want to help people and stuff, but man is not basically good.

Heh havent you figured out why I put the anti Sceintology link up in here?:p

A quick search on Google can get you up to 400 web sites bashing them but I`d still like to hear what they have to say for themselves so I might call this guy up or got to one of their lectures.

It's a cult... and a bad one at that...

shut up...I'm dumb... :p

I see what you mean. I'd rather know what they were about and bash them than be ignorant and bash them.

and, uh, aren't ALL cults pretty bad?

Call me nutty, but L. Ron Hubbard is a science fiction author... Yeah, i'm gonna wait til Gene Roddenberry (or his estate) comes up with a religion and sign on for that.

STAR TREK RULES!

I put da links up so you could know about them. Anything I tell you about them I would say from my standpoint (they`re theivin` bastards etc.) you have to make your own minds up.

I see what you mean.

Star Wars is better.

except for Episode 1.

there's no excuse for that shit. they fucked up big time.

::stops::

They're a group of self-deluded fools basing their lives on a joke Hubbard threw at the world in an attempt to win a bet.

Many years ago Hubbard, Heinlein and one other SF writer whose name I can't remember now made a bet: who could start their own religion first.

Hubbard started Scientology (well, he created Dianetics [or whatever it is] first).
Heinlein wrote about the Church of All Worlds but didn't do anything to create it ... his readers did that for him (yes, it's a real church, go look it up).
The other guy lost the bet :)

Sorry, but I don't think much of Scientology. One of my uncles was a top type guy in the movement here in Australia. It ruled his life. He was a really strange guy who actually left the country for the short period that the religion wasn't legal here. When he died the church came and took all his papers and computer records etc (he was their accountant or something). When I was a kid, he always reminded me of Dr Smith from Lost in Space :)

Also had a friend in Sydney who got involved. He was depressive and very vulnerable at the time. After two or three of their "courses" and "self help classes" he decided that they were a bunch of nutters and decided he wanted out - until they presented him with a bill for around $60,000 for the courses he'd done, which they said they'd sue him for if he left. Even 5 years later he was still doing part time work for them (when they wanted him there, often at short notice) to pay off the debt.

Anyway, I guess I'm a little biased regarding Scientology. I have other horror stories if you're intersted ... become involved at your own risk!

I`m interested in the methods employed in Dianetics. It could be usefull to know how to do it myself so that I have more control over the outcome.

You're nearly right, L.Ron Hubbard is in fact a particularly bad science fiction writer.

Its a bit of a wierd religion, I wouldn't call it a cult though, these days "cult" just means that the American government doesn't like it.

I would however recomend reading Dianetics , granted it's a load of bollocks but it does teach you how to read, learn and understand difficult text (that's actually what the first chapter is about) Anyone studying should check it out.I wouldn't recomend reading it if you're particularly weak willed though, it does have some pretty convincing arguements so just remember, it's Fiction..

Most things are

Scientology seems to work fine for a lot of big league Hollywood people? How bad could it be? Just look at Tom Cruise...er, well...um, perhaps that wouldn't be the best example...never mind.


Shadowborn

L.Ron Hubbard I concur... was a bad sci-fi Author... Do you know why there are a lot of hollywood bigwigs into it??
Cuz it costs so fucking much.... this religion is worse than Catholocism in that they do not just pass a hat around they send it around with a guy with a gun and a lawyer....

On the Church of Scientology: http://www.realmagick.com/articles/59/2159.html

I take it this was the part refering to Scientology, Bob?


Shadowborn

Yes Sally, if you read on it does actualy state that it is talking about Scientology.

That letter on the first post wasnt a email. They know my address, is that bad?