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A christian dude went crazy.. - 12-01-01

in my philosophy class.. we were discussing that if a good God exists then why then he make certain things sinful.. like are they bad cuz he says they are bad.. or are they bad cuz they are bad..

and blah blah blah.. and we just somehow got to how the bible has been changed and modified to meet ones needs.. and this guy with a goatee goes mad or something.. he's screaming at the professor.. and like gets up.. and like kicks his chair.. and he's like the BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOOD.. and it has not been MODIFIED.. ITS BEEN PERFECTED OVER 2000 YEARS BY GODDD!!

and he goes on and on and on.. and I'm like.. Oh shit..

well.. it all ended when some one is like.. yeah.. ur right.. calm down.... you have wonderful ideas.. now lets get on with the class..



we should invite that guy to these forums hehe it would be sooo much fun
  
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12-01-01

I must refer this guy to Clearwitch, who seems to have a list of biblical inconsistancies... He can then go out and "perfect" the good book a bit more.



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12-02-01

Get me his e-mail addy, I'll gladly spam him. Or better yet, get him here. We need some dofferent opinions.


You promised me the ending would be clear
You'd let me know when the time was now
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12-02-01

...it would be interesting....


It is common to assume that human progress affects everyone- that even the dullest man, in these bright days, knows more than any man of, say, the Eighteenth Century, and is far more civilized. This assumption is quite erroneous...The great masses of men, even in this inspired republic, are precisely where the mob was at the dawn of history. They are ignorant, they are dishonest, they are cowardly, they are ignoble. They know little if anything that is worth knowing, and there is not the slightest sign of a natural desire among them to increase their knowledge.
  
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12-02-01

...I miss Samichking...


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...who...?


It is common to assume that human progress affects everyone- that even the dullest man, in these bright days, knows more than any man of, say, the Eighteenth Century, and is far more civilized. This assumption is quite erroneous...The great masses of men, even in this inspired republic, are precisely where the mob was at the dawn of history. They are ignorant, they are dishonest, they are cowardly, they are ignoble. They know little if anything that is worth knowing, and there is not the slightest sign of a natural desire among them to increase their knowledge.
  
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12-02-01

He used to argue the chistians side here...throwing bible quotes east and west and never showing signs of anger...he just prayed for us. In the end though, he left. But you can do a search on his name...his threads are still here.


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...ah, yes...I remember now...


It is common to assume that human progress affects everyone- that even the dullest man, in these bright days, knows more than any man of, say, the Eighteenth Century, and is far more civilized. This assumption is quite erroneous...The great masses of men, even in this inspired republic, are precisely where the mob was at the dawn of history. They are ignorant, they are dishonest, they are cowardly, they are ignoble. They know little if anything that is worth knowing, and there is not the slightest sign of a natural desire among them to increase their knowledge.
  
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12-02-01

*l* That Would be amusing. I tried to explain, to a Christian once, That If A Perfect Evil God and A Perfect Good God Where walking towards me I wouldn't know who to run away from first.


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12-02-01

Enlighten me as to your line of thought here, Necro...


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12-02-01

get his email address? hehe.. I'm not gonna go near that person.. what if he decides to crucify me in the name of jesus..

hmm.. well.. I could search for him on the people finder on the website.. I'll try to get his email address and invite him here..
  
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Enlighten me as to your line of thought here, Necro...
Well This is hard to explain at the best of times But here goes...

If you Burned down a Evil gods Temple he would just kill you on the spot without concience, whereas Do the same to a Good Gods Temple and He would set you on fire and put you outside of time for "Til the End Of Days" to Teach you a lesson.

Real Honest Good has No Conception of the Word Forgiveness because of two reasons a) In "Heaven" Nothing bad happens so there is nothing to forgive. b) Good tends to sit in judgement of others to make sure what they are doing is good(No Freedom Bound By all manner of Rules).

As an example Jo-Ho's teach that everyone will get a second chance on Earth in Eden after Armaggedon, But If you break the Rules even a minor one after that Its "Hello Welcome to Oblivion". Good gives no second chances.


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12-02-01

You do that, Gargoyle, it could be really fun...and we will behave, won't we, guys?


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You do that, Gargoyle, it could be really fun...and we will behave, won't we, guys?
It will at least be nice to have a Christian viewpoint - tell me, which sect of Christianity does he affiliate himself with, or is he one of these trendy new "non-denominationals"...?
  
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I am curious. Gods of good were considered those of love. Mingle that with the following quote:

"Without misstakes, there can be no forgiving.
Without forgiving, there can be no love."

I'm questioning the goodness of all these "gods". For I feel sometimes, even I am more good (better?) then them.


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Quote:
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You do that, Gargoyle, it could be really fun...and we will behave, won't we, guys?
Will we? Have we ever? Last time this was asked you were literally devoured if I remember correctly


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*l* Ate, In truth, as I see it, without Evil there is no forgiveness, and no Love. The side-effect of Evil, is Love.
Happiness doesn't need caring.


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*l* Ate, In truth, as I see it, without Evil there is no forgiveness, and no Love. The side-effect of Evil, is Love.
Happiness doesn't need caring.
Interesting point of view. Love springs from evil. I fear I cannot agree, but I do understand...


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*l* I never said Love springs from Evil, Love comes from Good, But without Evil there is no reason to care.


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Hmmm... - 12-02-01

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*l* That Would be amusing. I tried to explain, to a Christian once, That If A Perfect Evil God and A Perfect Good God Where walking towards me I wouldn't know who to run away from first.
What necropolis said here actually got me thinking; in the bible, who is the protagonist and who is the antagonist? Go, or Satan?

'Cause think about it; with all the horrible things that happen in the bible, Satan doesn't pitch up too often...
It WAS God who flooded the world, sent plagues, had children ripped to shreds, had his own son crucified, along with countless other horrible things....

Hmm...ya know what? Satan doesn't seem all that bad any more...
I'm gonna go out and buy a "SATAN IS MY BUDDY" T-shirt!
:p


I don't want to be remembered...




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