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Anti-Christ - 11-28-01

According to christianity, anyone who does not believe in or follow the teachings of jesus christ is an antichrist by definition. If this is so then why have they decided to roll all antichrists into a little ball and then call them the ANTI-CHRIST and say that they will destroy the world. Also, why do christians go on about the anti-christ when most of them are anti-christs themselves, they do not completely follow the words of THEIR savior



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11-28-01

Uhm...because their religion is based on hypocricy..?

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11-29-01

 According to Christians, anyone who does not believe and/or not follow their religion are _heretics_.
The Anti-christ is a different beast altogether. The being they call the Anti-christ is to be the compelete opposite of Christ. Where latter wanted to build, the former wants to destroy. Where Christ worked to save souls, the Anti-christ wants to control them. Where one is a little bit country, the other is rock
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*Gives Clearwitch her cookie* All religion is based on hypocrisy.


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Yay! I got a cookie! I'll make more sense here when I wake up, I'm sure...


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11-29-01

Wait, whom did you get the idea from that Christianity calls all non-believers anti-chrsits? Shit, antichrist is hardly used at all in the Bible, and only really in the Apocrypha.



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11-29-01

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The Anti-christ is a different beast altogether. The being they call the Anti-christ is to be the compelete opposite of Christ. Where latter wanted to build, the former wants to destroy. Where Christ worked to save souls, the Anti-christ wants to control them. Where one is a little bit country, the other is rock
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What did Jesus build and isnt "Do what I say or go to hell" control?


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11-29-01

I was attempting to speak from the viewpoint of a Christian, not my own.
What did Jesus build? Directly, a religion. Indirectly, a lot. For better of for worse, the belief in Christ is one of the building blocks for much of the modern world. You always hear about all of the horrible things, like the Inquisition and the Crusades, that the Christians have done. They would not have been able to do these things if they were not _everywhere_. (They have done good things as well, but no one likes to remember those). They fight over his words. They cry over his words. They die over his words. They love over them, eat, sleep, and pray over them. Yes, every religion does their own versions of these things, but they don't have the sheer numbers.
Am I a Christian? No. But there are more of them then then there is of me, and because of that they have had greater influence.


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11-29-01

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isnt "Do what I say or go to hell" control?
Is not Karma?


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Re: Anti-Christ - 11-29-01

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According to christianity, anyone who does not believe in or follow the teachings of jesus christ is an antichrist by definition. If this is so then why have they decided to roll all antichrists into a little ball and then call them the ANTI-CHRIST and say that they will destroy the world. Also, why do christians go on about the anti-christ when most of them are anti-christs themselves, they do not completely follow the words of THEIR savior
I'm awake now...I think you have the terms mixed up a little, Visagore. Anti-Christ is the Beast, the ultimate evil, the direct opposite of Christ. However, and this is where it starts getting fascinating, in the Old Testament, anyone who worked against the will of God, was labelled a Satan. There were a lot of Satans wandering the earth....but when the church needed a public scapegoat, something to scare the followers with so they would keep in line, they used the term 'satan', mixed it with the legend of Lucifer, added some pagan and heathen beliefs along with a few of the old jewish traditions, and voila! Satan was born...


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11-29-01

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Is not Karma?
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Tch...men...


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Tch...men...
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And here's why the Pope is in fact the antichrist.... hmmm....

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Gotta love Abramic fundamentalists...
  
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Hehehe...I've heard about that...


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I'm awake now...I think you have the terms mixed up a little, Visagore. Anti-Christ is the Beast, the ultimate evil, the direct opposite of Christ....
I believe that _was_ what I had said. I may not of made myself clear, for that I apologize


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11-29-01

Oh...wait...it was Tainted I was supposed to adress there...ugh...

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11-30-01

I took no offence, it seems you were not completely awake when you posted it.


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Heh...I'm rarely completely awake these days...lol


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11-30-01

Karma you suffer on Earth through this life or other lives not through another plane and that is only when you do immoral things.Not worshipping God is not immoral.


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11-30-01

Karma: You do something bad something bad happens to you.
Hell: You do something bad, something bad happens to you.
Both are concepts created by a religion to help channel, focus, and yes, control their worshipers actions.


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11-30-01

It's not created by religion, but created by humans...we need something to keep us in line. What happens to a child with no boundaries, who never experiences any consequences for its actions?


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