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05-01-01

does it really matter if there is a heaven or hell?
is good and evil just a perception of ones own needs?
religion was an opiate for the masses. it kept groups of people following a god. hammering philosophy into the hearts of common men using as instruments fear and guilt. it was beneficial for its time but now i believe it is outdated. with each coming year. world intellect increases with all the information available out there you will find more agnostic and atheist views


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LOL.....OKIE DOKIE THEN
  
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this is hell
  
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05-02-01

Hate-filled, pretentious bullshit passed off as superiority. How refreshing.


This world can turn me down
But I won't turn away
And I won't duck and run
'Cuz I'm not built that way
When everything is gone
There's nothing there to fear
This world can not bring me down,
No, 'cuz I'm already here

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God(s) are our answer to why we exist. We created them as we needed them.





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intellect? - 05-02-01

people aren't athiest or agnostic because of their "high" intellect. they are that way because they refuse to see the truth. they don't want to believe that there is a creator. they don't want to change the way they think.
  
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05-02-01

seven7seven..youre rhetoric never ceases to amuse me.

An atheist or one who chooses to be agnostic is not doing so b/c of their intellect, I agree with that. But on the other hand they aren't refusing to see the truth, nor are they unwilling to change their thoughts. You can't make yourself believe in something you personally know you can't believe in. Like the Easter Bunny or Santa Claus. I can't sit here and one day say.."today I'm going to believe in God."

One thing people fail to see is..you can't force faith.



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i know man. i'm talking generally people are that way. how many do you know that actually care to read about God and find out the truth for themselves.
you might not thing that God is the truth, but you know what i mean.
people are too lazy to do anything. so they just sit back and never change.
  
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05-03-01

actually seven7seven i have studied for many years different philosophies and religions
and the only one universal truth is that every man will have there personal perception and ever man will be correct
  
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Re: intellect? - 05-03-01

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people aren't athiest or agnostic because of their "high" intellect. they are that way because they refuse to see the truth. they don't want to believe that there is a creator. they don't want to change the way they think.
How would you know, your a Christian! People are Athiest because they probebly know better than to be a slave to something that doesn't exist...
  
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hello! i said it before. people aren't born into christianity. i used to be agnostic.
  
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hello! i said it before. people aren't born into christianity. i used to be agnostic.
You think just because its your opinion, its all how it is!?!
  
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05-04-01

yes, i do believe what i said. but, you don't have to! aren't you so happy about that? instead of getting pissed off about something i say, just ignore me, if you like. this is a forum. expect people to say things that you don't agree with.
  
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07-03-01

i am god get over it already
  
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07-03-01

you're a dork.


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You think just because its your opinion, its all how it is!?!
What's the point in having an opinion if you don't believe that's the way it is? That would contradict itself.
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How would you know, your a Christian! People are Athiest because they probebly know better than to be a slave to something that doesn't exist...
No, Christians are Christians by choice. Because they don't want to be a slave to sin.
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and the only one universal truth is that every man will have there personal perception and ever man will be correct
i respect your opinion, but it dosen't make any sense. So is there a Christian God for those who believe and not a God at all for those you don't. What about Islamic? Does there God only exist for them, but no one else? Please explain, I don't think I fully understand your beliefs.
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i'm talking generally people are that way. how many do you know that actually care to read about God and find out the truth for themselves.
That's not necessarily true. Some just won't except it because they don't want to. That's the way it is because God gave us freedom to believe in Him or not.
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I can't sit here and one day say.."today I'm going to believe in God."
Why not?
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God(s) are our answer to why we exist. We created them as we needed them.
Ok, tell me this:to what ummm.......good did it do for the disciples to make up a lie about Jesus being the Messiah? They all became marteyers (is that how you spell it) Would you die for something you made up and didn't truelly believe in? Besides, if they wrote the Bible for themselves, they would of made them selves look better (like Peter denying Christ three time before his cruxiciftion.


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Some just won't except it because they don't want to.
Sorry, I messed up. I meant to say 'accept' instead of 'except'.


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No, Christians are Christians by choice. Because they don't want to be a slave to sin.

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You don't agree that some people are christian for other reasons.

Examples:
a) They were raised within the religion, and just decided to say their christian, have been baptised, confirmed, attend confession, mass and follow all the dogma?
b) People who accept charity, such as a homeless person at a christian souphouse, who pretends to be christain out of fear he will get worse treatment and participate in grace, and mass?

Or do you not consider them really christian? (personally I don't)
  
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07-03-01

I don't either. I don't try to judge them and figure out which ones are 'real' or not or anything, but no, i wouldn't consider them 'true' christians.
  
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lol
i am a dork

a dorky god
  
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