you still haven't read anything i wrote have you?, none of my questions have been answered, more of the same "i'm better you're stupid" reply that you've dominated with in this thread, i'm tired of talking to little boys...do you understand anything other than delusions of grandeur?

Sooo..... you have FAITH in yourself...... which is a type of faith.... everyone does need faith in something even if it is only in thier own five senses and thierselves......

""i dont consider myself a weak person, mainly because i go through life by my own rules, not worshipping some goddess or following any fiction book, blindly following something which, in reality, hasnt proved to exist""

So.... what rules do you live by and where did you acquire your moral sense of being.... I remember you... I think it was you... explaining that you were fascinated by the Sumerian culture..... was that you???

Well anyways..... what are your set of rules....??

""enlightment, to me, means to feel at peace with oneself------->you dont need religion or a set of beliefs which dont have any basis to achieve this enlightment

all you have to do is use your mind and keep a clear head, following your own morals and values, and thinking for yourself whats right and wrong and acting upon it...

you dont need religion and fantasy beliefs to teach you morals and values and whats right and wrong... you can use your own mind to figure that out...""

Enlightenment has nothing to do with religion.... you are correct.... yet do not dismiss those who do use it to attain thier enlightenment.... anything that helps to make a person more at peace with themselves and the world around them is a wonderful thing.... as for morals.... everyone when growing up needs some sort of moral compass to guide them... whether it be a set of parents who are kindly and pass that kindness on to thier children or if it is a religion that guides them.... if a child is raised and taught that murder is good he will grow up to murder.... we are 50% genes and 50% environment....

Now religion and faith may seem like petty beliefs to you and yet you can not disprove them just as they cannot prove them.... which leads to an impasse....
in the end you need at the very least faith in yourself.... which you do.... so in a way you also are a slave to faith.... funny that considering you seem to deny faith in any form....

Yay Dysh!

That was beautiful and poetic.

Can color make sense to a color blind person?

Maybe you are just god-blind

Very well said, I like that a lot and I agree.

color exists in reality, even though a color blind person cant see color

god doesnt exist in reality, even though religious people claim they "feel" its presence

and dont tell me that in the color blind person's reality, color doesnt exist... ive said this quite a few times in the past but it doesnt seem to stick into people's minds --> the reality one's mind portrays isnt necessarily the universal reality or the true reality of life...

your right... i cant disprove god/religion as nobody can prove god/religion... but what you should realize is that believing in something which cant be proved or disproved is a very stupid thing to believe in...

would you believe in an elephant that could fly just because nobody has been able to DISPROVE the existance of this elephant that can fly? im guessing your answer would be no

another point im trying to make is when people use organized religion to try to achieve their enlightenment, they are directly or indirectly contributing to world problems like racism, sexism, and homophobia among other things in the form of terrorism

use this link to find out in more detail about organized religions causing these world problems http://www.religioustolerance.org/curr_war.htm

i never stated that i deny faith... faith by non-religious definition means --->Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.

to state that i denied faith would be a stupid thing to say...
however, my faith/belief has a significant basis, i just dont start believing in an elephant that can fly... i believe in what makes sense to me

a child can be taught what's right and wrong by its parents... most parents pass on their morals and values to their kids, aside with their religious beliefs... this *MAY* be bad for the childs mental growth and development... limiting a child to follow its organized religion and fiction book wont let the child "think out of the box"... this will tamper with the child's ability to think on its own and will harm it in the long run... this is another point im trying to make

parents dont need to shove a fiction book down their child's throat... the morals and values they acquire will be just as good for the child, if not better...

read my other post replys to other people, most of your questions have been answered

however, if some of your questions still havent been answered, please make a list of them and ill be glad to answer them for you

by the way, if it wasnt for the advancements in medicine and technology, achieved through science, you wouldnt last a month in this world

i think you are misunderstanding me... read the title of this thread once more-->FOR ALL RELIGION BELIEVERS: How can you prove that your religion is reality

notice i use the word RELIGION in the title two times... i thought you would be smart enough to figure out this thread was about organized religion... most of my posts are about organized religion, not the kind of fiction things YOU are into

since i dont know exactly what your beliefs and practices are, i cant say if these beliefs and practices contribute directly or indirectly to world problems or not... im guessing they dont

on a personal level, i do think it is quite stupid to believe in fiction stuff like you do... however it is your choice to do so and not mine

i myself dont feel the need to believe and practice fiction stuff, but you are your own person and so you go and do whatever you want

The thing that you should realize DOWNDOOM, as much as you claim the religious cannot prove that which they have faith in to be true, neither can you prove that what you believe to be true for you is the right and only way. You oppose the religious yet you behave in the same manner, you say that religion, and I quote "another point im trying to make is when people use organized religion to try to achieve their enlightenment, they are directly or indirectly contributing to world problems like racism, sexism, and homophobia among other things in the form of terrorism" so through your own refusal to accept the basis of religious belief in those you are questioning, you do precisely what the staunch religious do. You believe your way is the only way, your way is the right way. Either 'way' it's coming from a dogmatic place. So religious or not, you prescribe to judgment.

you claim i believe my way is the only and right way

what do you believe? (just give a straight, simple, to the point answer)

And the point of that in relation to what I had said would be....?

Through your words you were inferring that you believed your way to be right. Which would then exclude anything that opposed your belief.

what do you believe to be right? how do you think people should live? what should they believe etc. ?

Right is a very subjective word, remember. But basically I believe(wish) that all of humanity would come to realize that their individual and/or group beliefs to be a different way, not the only way. "All roads lead to Rome" as they say. You cannot force or change another's vision which they hold to be true of the identity they are expressing through their current incarnantions. You cannot make people accept your way unless they themselves come to it through their own understanding and choice. This is something I "remembered" again through a thread I made in Spirituality about vegetarianism. Just because it works for you does not mean it has to work for everyone.
My beliefs are personal and simply cannot be summed up in one line. And as for how people should live, I feel it would benefit mankind if he focuses on living to the best ability that he can, instead of looking without, look within. Another matter that was reiterated through that "vegetarian" thread. This is about my life, I can only do what's right for me, and in doing so I should try and refrain from judging that which seems to oppose what I believe to be true. We're all on different spiritual evolutionary levels, and therefore experiences are wholly individual. Some relate and feel connected to Religion, others prefer a solitary approach to Spirituality, which is right? And who/what would be the judge of that?

so dont you also prescribe to judgement by saying the opposite of what you have claimed i have said? that is, there is no one right path but that everyone has their own individual path... ?

Judgment usually implies you believe something to be wrong, incorrect or not worthy. Perhaps you can take what I said as a judgment on you and no matter what I say can change that percpeption if you feel it to be true. But by pointing out through observation does not mean I am judging. One can observe and share one's observations or one can judge, I did not say you were wrong, I said you were in fact doing exactly what you described most religions do, alienate and create division.
Out of curiosity, how is it that by saying everyone has their path do you derive judgment from such?