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How a random ...
you kids are lagging. i thought there would be at least 30 threads dedicated to this shit. here, read this.. my boss sent it to me today:
How a random three-digit number became a pot euphemism is, in itself, a story. Either that, or something from the annals of Cheech & Chong.
Links between youth culture and the number surfaced after the April 20, 1999, Columbine massacre, when some postulated that the shooters chose the date of their rampage to coincide either with Hitler's birthday or some date of unspecified importance to teenage youth culture. Well before that, however, pager-toting suburban adolescents throughout the country used the three digits as a code for smoking marijuana. And in 1991, High Times magazine, a staunch promoter of the 420 phenomenon, published an item on a flier that a staffer found circulating at a Grateful Dead concert in Oakland: "WAKE 'N' BAKE. Smoke Pot At 4:20," the flier reportedly said.
The term, however, appears to have been coined long before then, according to those who have tracked it. Stern, for example, says she heard it as long ago as the late 1980s, when she was working with young people in a Pennsylvania drug treatment facility. Ron Angier, field supervisor for the Marin District of California State Parks, has recollections that are older still, from his first days as a park ranger 22 years ago on Mt. Tamalpais.
"Crowds of teenagers just started showing up on the mountain at 4:20 p.m. on April 20," Angier said. "Maybe a thousand kids went up one year to Bolinas Ridge, this open vista that overlooks the Pacific Ocean and Stinson Beach."
At first, he said, the authorities viewed it as a harmless spring-fever ditch day or, later, a perhaps-overly-enthusiastic Earth Day observation. But soon the annual al fresco smoke-in clogged the two-lane mountain roads with parked cars. "Occasionally we'd have injuries, either from accidents or overdoses," said Angier. "We started having to close down the mountain because it was becoming unsafe."
Finally, in the mid-1990s, the pilgrimage dissipated, to the point that Angier, who now supervises the Mt. Tamalpais ranger station, plans no increase in park enforcement this year. The reason?
"Well, I think this generation has more to do than to just run up to Mt. Tam and get loaded," Angier said. "Also 420 is a nationwide thing now. The events are all over, not just here."
That still doesn't explain what the number 420 has to do with marijuana. One theory holds that there are exactly 420 chemical components in marijuana. (Untrue, say the experts). Another is that when the Grateful Dead toured, they always stayed in Room 420. (Also untrue, says Grateful Dead Productions spokesman Dennis McNally.)
"My kids' little skateboard friends in Oregon used to tell me that 420 was police code for a pot bust," laughed Carolyn "Mountain Girl" Adams, a former wife of the Dead's late guitarist Jerry Garcia, repeating yet another popular, but inaccurate, theory.
"But I never heard the term before the 1990s," she said, speaking by cell phone from a park bench in Colorado, where she had gone to catch the tour of String Cheese Incident, a Dead-inspired jam band.
"We always just said, you know, 'joints' or 'doobies,' or 'Js' or whatever. 'Four-twenty' was a '90s thing that traveled the way hula hoops and Frisbees traveled, along the youth net. Via the hackey-sack crowd."
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Taken from a parents pot research page;
'According to Steven Hager, editor of High Times, the term 420 originated at San Rafael High School, in 1971, among a group of about a dozen pot-smoking wiseacres who called themselves the Waldos, who are now pushing 50. The term was shorthand for the time of day the group would meet, at the campus statue of Louis Pasteur, to smoke pot. Intent on developing their own discreet language, they made 420 code for a time to get high, and its use spread among members of an entire generation. While our teens feel that they know something we don't, you can let them in on the fact that it was your generation that came up with the numbers.'
Learn as if you were going to live forever. Live as if you were going to die tomorrow. --Mahatma Gandhi
Hey, I got home from school at precisely 4:20...and it's 4/20...and I thought, wow, what a coincidence.
This doesn't have anything to do with pot, I realize, but then I really don't give a rat's ass about dope, stoners, stupid codes, or hip catch-phrases.
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I leave you all with a few choice words by own personal idol:
If you know like I know
You don't wanna step to this
It's the G-Funk era
Funked out with a gangsta twist
If you smoke like I smoke
Then you high like everyday
And if your ass is a buster
213 will regulate
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i've always wondered about four twenty...i'm usually working.
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