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04-23-03
Starfleet starships would probably hold their own against Imperial Star Destroyers by using the photon torpedoes. But I think the Tie fighters would soon be all over them like hornets.
The Super Star Destroyer and the Death Stars would really ruin their day. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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Quantum torpedoes are twice the power of photon torpedoes and you have to take into account the numerous amount of starbases Starfleet has. TIE fighters also have no shielding compared to Starfleets shield everything policy and TIE`s mostly use Laser weapons which wont have any reconisable effect on any post Next Generation shielding. Work is of two kinds: first, altering the position of matter at or near the earth's surface relatively to other such matter; second, telling other people to do so.
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No, they hired Wookies. Enslaved them, rather.
I think the Empire would win. Starfleet has no common-use fighters (you never see any, do you?) and the Empire does have shield equipped fighters (TIE Advanced, Assault Gunboats, etc)...Between the overpowering ships and swarms of Fighters, the Empire would get them.
I mean, really, there are like 2 phaser banks (exaggeration I know, but there are just so few) on a Starfleet ship...the average Star Destroyer (Imperial Class) has what, 50 starboard 50 port? Or was it 30 and 30? I can't remember. In any case, the Empire would simply be overwhelming. Hey, bread is a good time for me...a-woodle-oo-doo, singing bread is a good time for EVERYbody...
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Its still lasers, missiles and ion cannons Vs phasers and quantum torpedoes. Star Trek shields are also designed to withstand phaser fire comapred to TIE fighter shields degined to only withstand their weaponry.They wouldnt be able to stand up against those weapons, most of the Empire`s battles would be just like DS9`s Way of the Warrior battle only on a much greater scale.
Edit: There were a few small fighting ships in the Dominion wars not including the Defiant. Work is of two kinds: first, altering the position of matter at or near the earth's surface relatively to other such matter; second, telling other people to do so.
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Actually, the gap is enormous, comparible to the USA (starfleet) and Iraq (Empire).
As near as I can figure, the fastest ships in Star Wars (like the Millenium Falcon) could make '.5 past light speed'. I would guess it Trek terms this would translate into warp 1.5.
The Enterprise in TNG could get up past warp 9.6 I believe.
Plus there's the shield and weapons advantage Red already mentioned. The Imperial ships wouldn't dent the shields of the Starfleet ships, and Starfleets phasers would cut through the Imperial shields and hulls like a hot knife through butter.
And yes, Starfleet does have 1 man fighters. They were used in the DS9 episode where Sisko retakes DS9 from the Dominion. | |
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I recall reading somewhere that ion cannons would disable a ship, including its shields. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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Yeah it acts kinda like a EM pulse from a nuke, disrupting ship electronics...but thats still a low level pulse designed to break through low powered shielding and a different type of hull plate. Work is of two kinds: first, altering the position of matter at or near the earth's surface relatively to other such matter; second, telling other people to do so.
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Hmmm.... And do proton torpedoes match photon torpedoes? To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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Comparing a universe that uses chrystals to generate power compared to hyperdrives is just INSANE! INSAAANE "When one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language." John Donne | |
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Quote: Originally posted by Sixgun_Symphony Hmmm.... And do proton torpedoes match photon torpedoes? | I would think that's like trying to match a musket with a vulcan 20mm | |
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Quote: Originally posted by MixBlender Comparing a universe that uses chrystals to generate power compared to hyperdrives is just INSANE! INSAAANE | Actually the crystals don't produce the power, they just control and focus it. The power comes from matter-antimatter reaction, which I think happens within the crystals themselves. | |
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Quote: Originally posted by Sixgun_Symphony I recall reading somewhere that ion cannons would disable a ship, including its shields. | Ion cannons are meant to penitrate shields and fry electronics. They do no actual physical damage, but because of their nature they can't be stopped by conventional shielding.
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Don't forget the fact that Starfleet can transport troops directly into the Empire ships and drop a few nice big photon grenades or some such, then "beam me up Scottie" the hell out of there. Bye bye Empire. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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Only until the Asgard turns retarded from over cloning.  Work is of two kinds: first, altering the position of matter at or near the earth's surface relatively to other such matter; second, telling other people to do so.
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