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Bah. All the empire has to do is send a few evil jedi knights onto star trek's ships and it would be all over. I want to see a wookie jedi knight. That would just plain kick ass. Imagine chewbacca with a light saber using the force.


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what? its not cool enough he can rips your arms off over a chess game, you want him to do it with the force now?

thats called the dark side baby


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what would chewy be called if he went over to the dark side? Crunchy?


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http://www.stardestroyer.net/tlc/Ion/index.html

An ion cannon works by overloading relays. It sends massive amounts of ionized energy throughout the hull and the computer system, in effect, 'shorting it out' until the ions disperse. We see Trek ships getting 'overloaded relays' in nearly every episode..so ion cannons would have a hay-day. And ion cannons are far from useless against shielded targets. They stick on the shielding for a fraction of a second before penetrating completely.

This would take care of any Starfleet Shields.

Empire ships use "Turbolaser", which is much more powerful than standard lasers.

That's right. We have pleanty of evidene on screen that Wars weaponry is far, far more powerful then anything Trek can hand out. And what Trek can hand out wouldn't do a whole lot.

A) You have partical sheilding that obsorbs kenetic energy, ray shielding that does the same to energy weapons (IE, a phaser blast, or an explosion from a photon torpedo.)

Wars has ion cannons..'nuf said.

C) Wars has massive ammounts of fighters. A Trek ship could only pick them off one at a time..

D) Capital-scale turrets that are deisnged to track fighters..would have absolutely no problem tracking a Trek vessel.



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*Sigh* Star Wars technology is on the gigawatt scale, Star Trek technology is on the terawatt scale. Shields degined to withstand terawatt energy weapons will have zero trouble with lasers even at 100 times the power of a TIE fighter.


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If I recall right, Starfleet ship's phasers can be adjusted to wide dispersal, so that could take out several tie fighters at one time if needed. (example: In A Piece of the Action, Captain Kirk orders an entire city block to be hit with the Enterprise's phasers on "Stun" power setting).



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Bah. All the empire has to do is send a few evil jedi knights onto star trek's ships and it would be all over. I want to see a wookie jedi knight. That would just plain kick ass. Imagine chewbacca with a light saber using the force.
Good plan, but how you gonna get em on the ship?
  
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http://www.stardestroyer.net/tlc/Ion/index.html

An ion cannon works by overloading relays. It sends massive amounts of ionized energy throughout the hull and the computer system, in effect, 'shorting it out' until the ions disperse. We see Trek ships getting 'overloaded relays' in nearly every episode..so ion cannons would have a hay-day. And ion cannons are far from useless against shielded targets. They stick on the shielding for a fraction of a second before penetrating completely.

This would take care of any Starfleet Shields.

Empire ships use "Turbolaser", which is much more powerful than standard lasers.

That's right. We have pleanty of evidene on screen that Wars weaponry is far, far more powerful then anything Trek can hand out. And what Trek can hand out wouldn't do a whole lot.

A) You have partical sheilding that obsorbs kenetic energy, ray shielding that does the same to energy weapons (IE, a phaser blast, or an explosion from a photon torpedo.)

Wars has ion cannons..'nuf said.

C) Wars has massive ammounts of fighters. A Trek ship could only pick them off one at a time..

D) Capital-scale turrets that are deisnged to track fighters..would have absolutely no problem tracking a Trek vessel.
Starfleet shields are designed to withstand ion storms. Cannon bolts would bounce off them like rasins off an Oldsmobile.
  
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*Sigh* Star Wars technology is on the gigawatt scale, Star Trek technology is on the terawatt scale. Shields degined to withstand terawatt energy weapons will have zero trouble with lasers even at 100 times the power of a TIE fighter.
Knock out the shields with the ion cannon, then send in the Tie fighters.



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An ion cannon works by overloading relays. It sends massive amounts of ionized energy throughout the hull and the computer system, in effect, 'shorting it out' until the ions disperse. We see Trek ships getting 'overloaded relays' in nearly every episode..so ion cannons would have a hay-day.



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Repeating things doesnt make it true.

Repeating things doesnt make it true.


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Knock out the shields with the ion cannon, then send in the Tie fighters.

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Starfleet shields are designed to withstand ion storms. Cannon bolts would bounce off them like rasins off an Oldsmobile.
  
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http://www.stardestroyer.net/tlc/Ion/index.html



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The book also says that "ion blasts are unimpaired by energy shields":

...ships have no defense against them short of reconfiguring their shields - and this would make the shields useless for absorbing standard laser blasts.


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Starfleet shields are designed to withstand ion storms. Cannon bolts would bounce off them like rasins off an Oldsmobile.
What episode or book did that come from. Is this Next Generation? Original Star Trek? or other show?



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04-26-03

I can't remember exactly, but on at least two occasions I've seen Starfleet vessels riding out an ion storm.

Starfleet shields aren't just more powerful, they're more advanced and can block or absorb more types of energy.
  
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