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Please Read - 09-29-03

The following was posted today on my Website...

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Jobe is a joke. Everything on this site that he claims is his art is either:

A - A picture of himself that's been toyed with in Paint Shop Pro, but is definitely not art. Anyone can click two buttons on a program and create the effects he has; this does not warrant the title of artist.

B - Stolen from the internet. An example of this is "his" models. They're not his. Search Google.com and you'll find these pictures again. Another example is all of "his" knives. Gil Hibbon's website has the exact same images.

C - a scan of something he bought.

Jobe is not as "crazy" as he puts on. His "eloquent dark words" are nothing more than the result of a small mind trying to appear eloquent and dark. He's a sham. He's not into self mutilation, and has never done it. Notice that for someone so into self mutilation, cutting himself with his knives, and putting the blades to his body (insinuating that he has/does/will cut himself), he's got surprisingly few scars on his body. Also, he's never "hunted people" or attacked anyone, as he has insinuated all over the internet. The closest he came to becoming violent with someone was getting beaten up at various nightclubs.

Jobe was "away" a while back, if you'll remember. If you care to know, he did not "have a lot of stuff to take care of". He was in jail, serving time for stalking a young woman at the local library.

This was just for your personal information. I have no doubt that most of you will dislike me for saying this. However, disliking me for saying it does not stop the spread of truth. I understand that it's not a pleasant thing to have happen, to have what you thought and bet on be exposed as a lie. Don't hate me, I am just the messenger.

Instead, put these truths to Jobe and demand an explanation.



This was posted by some calling themselves toll_the_apocalypse_chime@yahoo.com

I am more pissed than you can believe....

But to answer the above shit, I will can refute all above statements...



1) I make all my art work and pay for most of the models I use. These models are now close friends and are members also of the site, I can also post the original shots of any of the pics of these models and also the work-in-progress on any of the pictures I have posted on this site or any other...

2)My knives, is this kid for real??? How many have already seen me post pictures of me WITH my knives and some have even seen them on my webcam...

Not crazy??? Maybe not in a jacket yet but I can take pics of my meds if you like, and show you my medical appointment cards and letters from my shrink if need be...

4) Dark words... Well everyon is entitled to their opinion and I always say 'I am NOT Goth' the poems are for me and not anyone else...

5)Scars... It's not big and its not clever to cut or burn or any of that shit, but I do have them and my Ex's (who are the only ones to get close enough so fuck knows who you are) can testify to this...

6)Beaten up...? I've never walked away from a fight I didn't win, and I have the marks to prove that too.

7) I was away awhile back..? Yes I turned the comp off for awhile cos I had a breakdown, as for stalking someone at the Library... hmmm seeing as my mom works there you dipshit it would not be fucking wise, plus I don't got there unless my comps bust as my mom gets my book delivered dick.

8) In JAIL??? Seeing as I work for the Goverment in Taxes, which I can prove, they do a full history check and you cannot work for them if you have a criminal record. So double duh with 'fudge' fucker...


What you have posted not shows only your lack of what you thought was knowledge about me, but is also I believe a liablous act which I will prosecute you for when I have my friends trace your IP address...


If you hate me or love me this is bad , if anyone knows who this moron is could you please let me know ASAP as I think even I have never stooped this low before...



Thank you.


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09-29-03

Oh my god...

~hugs Jobe tightly~

For someone to make an attack on you personally is one thing, but to undermine your artwork is another thing altogether.

You have every right to be upset over this... I would be too. They are obviously weak minded, and riddled with negativity for them to say those things about you. They mentioned to not hate them for they are 'just the messenger' which clearly shows that whoever has said such things about you, obviously wouldn't know such things themselves personally -- thus they have no evidence that their words are truthful, whereas you can back your claim up. We have all at some point played the "telephone" game where we sit in a circle, and whisper a phrase to the person next to us.. and we all know how by the time it gets back to the starting person, it sounds nothing like what was originally said. Whoever posted that is someone's bitch, and not a very good one at that.

On top of that, there are quite a number of us here who have posted 'ordinary' or 'boring' or even 'dull' webcam pictures of ourselves, and you have taken them with our permission and turned what was once mundane, into a truly beautiful piece of art.

Call me if you need to talk..

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09-29-03

Paul,

The above statements made by this mystery person will not effect my opinion (of you) or anyone else's who knows you! I can certainly understand your anger and upset, but this really only makes the person who posted the bullshit look shallow. Who is this person to question you or anyone else anyway? I miss ya and luv ya and would never question you or your work.
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09-30-03

well that blows, lot of bored ass people out there who love to hate



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09-30-03

You don't have to defend yourself here, you should do it on your website.


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09-30-03

Just feel flattered someone took the time to criticise you. After all art is nothing without critics.


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09-30-03

There's a difference between critiquing a piece of art, and being downright cruel to the artist.
  
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09-30-03

True of sorts. It is a lame thing to do ofcourse. If you put yourself in the spotlight youll get burned, you can hopelessly try and fight it mostly to no avail. You can make a big deal out of it or just see it as exposure to your work. Personally I would prefer the latter.


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09-30-03

Sounds like downright jealousy to me!


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09-30-03

That person was just a bitter asshole, and he proved it by lying as much as he could. He was just too stupid to think you would defend yourself. People like that are just worthless trash and aren't worth the effort. You're a great guy from what I've seen of you. Don't let this get to you.


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09-30-03

bawahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i am crazy! you don't believe me? you must believe me. i have jackets. and meds. and knives.......come on guys.....really..............



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You don't have to defend yourself here, you should do it on your website.

I agree. By posting that nonsense here, you're basically giving this guy an outlet to further insult you. If I was your mysterious critic, I'd tear you a new one for trying to get sympathy on another site completely unrelated to the one critiqued. I admit it's lame and cruel for this guy to do it in the first place.. but come on. Be the bigger person and let it go.


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09-30-03

Still I'd be upset if someone did that to me on MY website (which is exactly why I don't have one of those "sign here" books....they only invite trouble.)


You know I love you Jobe.....call me ANYTIME if you wish, and don't listen to someone so pathetic.


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09-30-03

Well hell yeah I'd be pissed. I'd track their IP and go kick some ass. But I'm volatile, irrational, and cunt-like. I expect more from Jobe.


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You don't have to defend yourself here, you should do it on your website.

i agree with that also seeing as you just wasted my time with your bitching.
  
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09-30-03

Yeah. Let's start wasting time with huggles and humps. That IS the darkforum way.


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hell yeah, better than listening to dumbasses bitch about shit we don't care about
  
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09-30-03

Amen.

*huggle*

*hump*

I'm spent.


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sheesh! that's it? i feel so ... unsatisfied.
  
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I can't help it. I just don't have the super sperm I had back in the day.


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