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The nickname suits the situation.
  
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wow. we have lurkers galore. cmon lurkers, join up and post! say hello to the world of DF!



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And than some

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10-22-05

Maybe we should cut back on the areas a non-member (or Guest can actually view) to make the little blighters actually join, or are we just interested in the amount of views this site gets?



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The lurkers know about member only area's. They just don't feel like joining. After all, every thread with "Why don't lurkers join?" ends up talking about non-lurker area's.



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Maybe we should cut back on the areas a non-member (or Guest can actually view) to make the little blighters actually join, or are we just interested in the amount of views this site gets?
how about you gain members on merit? I can promise your forum would have a lot more prolific members if it werent so tightly censored, Ive tried to bring a few people here, who were more generous than I and actually read the rules and while they are professors, regular teachers and other...and they would have offered a lot, the rules were ridiculous and petty to them and as fans of freedom of speech and self regulation they declined membership. Im here for morbid amusement and a few characters I find interesting...really guys, this forum could be great...embrace darwinism and let us self regulate banning or deleting only illegal content, ad spammers and like content. circle jerks arent as fun as anarchy...and certainly less stimulating and educational.. I promise.
  
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how about you gain members on merit? I can promise your forum would have a lot more prolific members if it werent so tightly censored, Ive tried to bring a few people here, who were more generous than I and actually read the rules and while they are professors, regular teachers and other...and they would have offered a lot, the rules were ridiculous and petty to them and as fans of freedom of speech and self regulation they declined membership. Im here for morbid amusement and a few characters I find interesting...really guys, this forum could be great...embrace darwinism and let us self regulate banning or deleting only illegal content, ad spammers and like content. circle jerks arent as fun as anarchy...and certainly less stimulating and educational.. I promise.
I don't understand what your saying... which means you must be a witch! WITCH! WITCH!

On a sereous note, if I remember the rules right, it's almost the same as anyother forum, right?



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how about you gain members on merit? I can promise your forum would have a lot more prolific members if it werent so tightly censored, Ive tried to bring a few people here, who were more generous than I and actually read the rules and while they are professors, regular teachers and other...and they would have offered a lot, the rules were ridiculous and petty to them and as fans of freedom of speech and self regulation they declined membership. Im here for morbid amusement and a few characters I find interesting...really guys, this forum could be great...embrace darwinism and let us self regulate banning or deleting only illegal content, ad spammers and like content. circle jerks arent as fun as anarchy...and certainly less stimulating and educational.. I promise.
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I don't understand what your saying... which means you must be a witch! WITCH! WITCH!

On a serious note, if I remember the rules right, it's almost the same as another forum, right?
It is the same as a lot of forums, but not all.

The subjects are awesome, the theme is awesome, you have a tiny minority of awesome members but the cowardice of the rules and those (well, atleast two of them) youve (this forum) chosen to enforce them sucks dog balls.
  
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if you dont like the way it's run, don't come here.
Ill do what I want till it pleases me no longer or until I no longer have the option to do them via banned, losing arms, joining a cult etc etc. Im good like that.
  
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how about you gain members on merit? I can promise your forum would have a lot more prolific members if it werent so tightly censored, Ive tried to bring a few people here, who were more generous than I and actually read the rules and while they are professors, regular teachers and other...and they would have offered a lot, the rules were ridiculous and petty to them and as fans of freedom of speech and self regulation they declined membership. Im here for morbid amusement and a few characters I find interesting...really guys, this forum could be great...embrace darwinism and let us self regulate banning or deleting only illegal content, ad spammers and like content. circle jerks arent as fun as anarchy...and certainly less stimulating and educational.. I promise.
Things are really not so tightly censored. I can name at least a couple hundrd other Forums who Ban quicker than the eye can follow and I can name thousands with rulesets similar to ours.
Fans of freedom of speech and self regulation who are professors should know better being well educated that niether one really exist.



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It is the same as a lot of forums, but not all.

The subjects are awesome, the theme is awesome, you have a tiny minority of awesome members but the cowardice of the rules and those (well, atleast two of them) youve (this forum) chosen to enforce them sucks dog balls.
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10-23-05

she has been spoken to bro.


You can look at it as a metaphor for the fleeting nature of human life, or just chalk it up to my being a sick, bloodthirsty monster. Either way, it's all the same.

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I can name at least a couple hundrd other Forums who Ban quicker than the eye can follow
been banned from many, I see a line, I like to cross it (with a bulldozer ) its part of my charm.


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Been banned from a few of those too, restraint isnt my strong suit.



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well its kinda unfortunate you see things this way. Im not a fatalist though, neither are they. Being able to call a dumb ass a dumb ass is something they cherish though. I never said you should allow anything, I specifically mentioned legal issues and ad spam etc. But separate from all and any extreme examples often used in emotional arguments following your line, lets just talk about opinion and expression...which is what this forum is about right? not being confronted for what you say isnt what freedom of speech is as far as Im concerned, and being confronted is how we validate our stances and made to consider other's. Freedom of speech is about being able to express your opinion unrestricted, not about being able to lie, make shit up ie screaming fire in a theatre when there is none. opinions arent illegal where Im from, some might be offensive...but thats when the fun starts.

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she has been spoken to bro.
Cool

Should not be any more of those PM problems from here on out. The lines of communication should always be open. I am sure we will find a few more flaws with the Automatic System before we are done. They will be fixxed as found.



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been banned from many, I see a line, I like to cross it (with a bulldozer ) its part of my charm.
That can sometimes lead to trouble. But if you expect it or ask for it I am sure you are prepared for it




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well its kinda unfortunate you see things this way. Im not a fatalist though, neither are they. Being able to call a dumb ass a dumb ass is something they cherish though. I never said you should allow anything, I specifically mentioned legal issues and ad spam etc. But separate from all and any extreme examples often used in emotional arguments following your line, lets just talk about opinion and expression...which is what this forum is about right? not being confronted for what you say isnt what freedom of speech is as far as Im concerned, and being confronted is how we validate our stances and made to consider other's. Freedom of speech is about being able to express your opinion unrestricted, not about being able to lie, make shit up ie screaming fire in a theatre when there is none. opinions arent illegal where Im from, some might be offensive...but thats when the fun starts.

on to your next posts.
i am not a fatalist. I am a strict realist with a foot dragging in the dreamer state of mind. opinions are all well and good if expressed in a civilized manner. But we like to have good well thought out debates that are not taken off-topic by trolling or flaming which usually stems from someone who just cannot express thier opinion in a civilized manner. There are a couple of ways to express a negative opinion, in a rude and very uncouth manner, or in a very rational way which promotes healthy debate. I would rather that we dispense with the uncouth mannerisms an dkeep the rational, civilized ones
All rational, civilized opinions and expressions are allowed here even ones which are not very popular(look to some of Billy's posts for those) but we frown upon just plain rude behaviour because it does not promote any sort of a healthy debate platform.

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