Pretty much all the threads in this forum appear to not be going anywhere. they're all just... random discussions. Would you mind closing them please?

...isnt that what offtopic is for? Random discussions?

Frog > Start another thread if you like. I closed it because it was full of bickering that was going in circles. PM me if you think otherwise.

I'm going to close this thread as well. Don't get offended over thread closings. It's nothing personal.