In today society no one fears death anymore as a Capital punishment its inaffective , What is feard in the new millineum is congenital disease, and yet research moves slowly on these illnesses out living their victums even, with innocent animals and senteint creatures being the victums in the name of humanitys research.
With Capital punishemt nolonger a deterent prisons are over crowded and costly to maintain, and so in the name of humanity we paroll beasts early to keep them from over crowding , how dose this bring justice for their victums or teach them of the inhumanity of thier crimes.
To me these are all questions with the same answer .

1. we make the sentences for violent crimes in years of reasearch, with non lethal viruses going to lessar crimes , and for murder or in cases of molestations to lethall diseases or viruses.

2.we charge the drug research labs for the use of subjects , with all moneys going to prison up grades.

3.all life sentences involving murder where theres no doubt of guilt are automaticly inrolled in reaserch.

4. we offer early paroll to any convict willingly inrolled in reasearch.

I have had as manny people call me cold blooded for my veiws on capital punishment as have agreed with me , in my opinon the nature of some crimes are so horrendous that by there very acts the perpatraitors have relinquished any right to humanatarian treatment.
Plus this should also help approve faster cures and lower health care costs.


So I thought to ask you , what are your opinons?

I think you need to work on your typing skills

Apart from that, it is not progression, the things you state, it is regression to a lesser state of humanity, when we resort to mutilation again. When you treat humans as beasts, then a beast you have become...

Personally, I'm more into a mental reprogramming for criminals... Make them desire nothing more then to be a hardworking garbage collector or something... that way society gets something back without the need to mutilate the criminal...

So you think a loss of self mentalys more humain than , living with the consaquences of your actions? I personaly feel that by being put in the victum state they might come to judge their actions , but Ill admit this is a small probability,
also I dont feel that labotamys any kind of justice for the victums or their famalys, and i also feel that having mentaly deficant workers would propagaite a new set of finacle burdens !
But as always I respect everyones right to there opinon , and as far as my typing skills I apolagize as Im new at it and not a very good at spelling.

Simple solution....drop them off on some heavily guarded isolated island and let them communicate in their own meaninful ways. They're no longer our problem, tax strain and prison overcrowding relieved. Or we can just build a big fence around a state like Utah

No escape , I saw that movie ! its an idea , but like in austraila[ no offense intended] it would only work for so long i beleive , but thanks its always kool to hear anothers veiw point

Lets not forget the orphan diseases , these are the unpopular diseases and disorders, that go un researched do to not manny people suffering from them , so there cures wouldnt bring in much profit!.
P.S. Is it any more humain to abduct a senteint being from its home and famaly , teach it a vohcabulary of over 300 words , then after that studeis over send it to herpeis research , and make it live out the rest of its life in a 4 foot bye 4 foot cage beging for help?

i'm in agreement with lazarus, criminals, especially the scum like child abusers and murderers, lost all rights as human beings when they literally or not destroyed someone elses life. who gives if they feel pain as a result of improved medical knowledge? they're giving back to society what they stole of some little abused kid or raped and murdered woman!
If criminals, instead of being financial burdens, can offer a purpose then why not use them, if without a doubt they are guilty of a murder then there is no reason not to use them for the good of society to help cure diseases and like wise...

Have you ever seen "A Clockwork Orange".... hehe...

I think reading this thread is a very good argument for WHY we have a "no cruel or unusual punishment" clause.

*cough* Politics forum *cough*

I avidly support the death penalty for serial killers like Ted Bundy and Jeffry Dahmer.

I have some support for the death penalty in regards to other felons, but that depends on the circumstances of each case.

For once, I agree with Sixgun. On the moving to the political forum thing.


I'm against the death penalty in all forms and cases. There are many reasons for this. One of them is that life and death is in no way a power any government should have; it leads to tyrrany too easily. A power that the government has is, eventually, a power that government will abuse. The fact that innocent people have been put to death is more than enough proof of this, I think.

I started a thread on these forums about this a while ago. I remember some very interesting conversations on it. I think it ended up with several hundred posts. Someone wanna revive it?

why? it's about the state and consequences of capital punishment, not who should vote for it or who in our government is for/against it.

why not start a fresh conversation about it? if it's a hundred pages then the new people may not want to read all the way through it to see if their ideas or opinions are fresh.

I like Russia's death penalty. They put you in a stainless steel room with a grate in the center of the floor and tell you to not turn around. Then they shoot you in the head. Simple, efficient, quick, painless, and cheap. Do you know how much it costs to kill a prisoner here in America? It's appalling. That money should be spent on schools or something, not murderers and child molesters and rapists. Just shoot those bastards.

do you know how much it costs to keep an inmate in death row for a year? that's appalling.. especially considering the average amount of time an inmate spends on death row.

Yeah I know, it's like 10 years or something. I think excecuting them is a few million per inmate, and I don't remember exactly how much it is to keep them alive each year. I say give then 1 month's notice so they can live in fear and guilt over what they did and then shoot them. Oh but first, let the other inmates get to them. Solitary confinement for death row inmates isn't right to me. If they did stuff bad enough to get the death penalty, they should be cooped up with bubba, the 350 guy from south carolina that hasn't seen women in 10 years.

get the criminal to earn for the victims family. would be nice to get an extra $40,000 a year from someone elses hard labor. then when he/she is old and unable to work.. just shoot him/her in the head.

God, I'm glad no one on these forums has any political power.

Garg, I like the way you think.

It's also important to note past examples of what happens when executions become cheap, easy, and fast. We call one of these examples the Reign of Terror.

My method isn't cheap, easy or fast..

I should be ruler of the world