If there was an historical person named "Jesus", none of this is his fault--he is dead.

!!!there's a difference between Jesus and Jesus Christ:
Jesus could've existed...he could've been great etc. but jesus christ is the fucker i was talking about...i'm really not in the mood to back up my thoughts right now, maybe tomorrow...today's not my day:(
HS
Jonas!!!

Hey you semen slurping, excrement gulpling pail of ass cabbage, I think your the biggest fucktard I've ever met. Just because Christians choose to NOT do the things you do doesn't mean they are warped. Instead of reading Lavey, why you try GOING to a church for once in your miserable existence. What, do you get all your info from TBN? Have you actually ever tried to read and understand the Bible in an unbiased frame of mind?.

My perception of you is nothing more than that of a emotional child, seeking ONLY to be right and to justify how you live. God know you certainly can't disproove anything with your asinine, surface thinking logic. Did it ever occur to you, that maybe, just maybe the tennets of Christianity are put forth for a reason. Look at the sad state of this world, if people chose not to "sin", which according to the Bible is impossible b/c we are human, they'd live a much happier life. We can't be perfect all the time, but perhaps you'd cogitate on the idea that if we chose NOT to indulge in things which are "wrong" we wouldn't reap the consequences? If a teenager were a Christian, and she refused to have sex with a guy b/c she believed it was wrong to do so before marriage, she couldn't get pregnant, an STD or face the heartbreak of the lost relationship. Unlike you, a lowely coward who chooses to berate those who believe differently, Christians must constantly defend themselves to this world. I'm sure it's not an easy thing to do.

You are a child and nothing more.You'd rather judege than investigate the other side. Let's face it, our perceptions come from our experiences, what would you have to experience to not hate Christians?

JimmyCrackCorn

I agree with JimmyCrackCorn to a point...minus all the childish name calling..

In all honesty what do you, and many others, have so much of a problem with Christians and their religion for? In turn would you be hypocrites, "you" sit there and whine about being opressed, condemned, and ridiculed by all these Christians but at the same time "you're" turning around and doing the same, opressing, condemning, and ridiculing them for having their own belief system?

I'm no Christian but I do find it pathetic to be so hypocritical and judgemental of others solely based upon their religious affilation...

Originally posted by painful_clutch_
hi,
read many of these posts in thuis forum, and i think people just follow god because they are scared of death...i don't just think this, actually i'm 100% sure!!!
now if this is the case, christians are fucking cowards!!!(no offence :)
im a satanist, but i don't believe in satan, because if i did i'd have to believe in god and that would make me a coward two...makes sense???no???FUCK YOU THEN!!!
HS
Jonas

I agree, most Christians are Christian because either they where raised that way, or they want something to believe in because they are scared of death, so they choose Christianity because they get something good in the afterlife if they worship god, they go in eternal happienes and all is forgoten...But then if u look at it from the beggining, it changes everything...(Christians are followers of god because there afraid of death!) All of it is just a fairytale! ( I must of said that a million times)

Originally posted by concubia nocte
I agree with JimmyCrackCorn to a point...minus all the childish name calling..

In all honesty what do you, and many others, have so much of a problem with Christians and their religion for? In turn would you be hypocrites, "you" sit there and whine about being opressed, condemned, and ridiculed by all these Christians but at the same time "you're" turning around and doing the same, opressing, condemning, and ridiculing them for having their own belief system?

I'm no Christian but I do find it pathetic to be so hypocritical and judgemental of others solely based upon their religious affilation...

I don't know about anyone else, but I hate Christians because there own religion is hypocritical. There religion says that you showld love everyone, but every Christian I meet doesn't want to be around me because I dress differant from them, they know I'm a Witch, or they just judge me in there own ways! So I really try not to even talk to one, but they allways wanna talk to me! not to chat, (because its against there religion to talk toanyone that is not Christian) but to preach! They get on my nerves, and I'm sure everybody elses. If there religion wasn't so judgemental, I wouldn't mind them... but until that changes, they better fuck off.

I hate Christians because there own religion is hypocritical....So I really try not to even talk to one, but they allways wanna talk to me! not to chat, (because its against there religion to talk to anyone that is not Christian)...If there religion wasn't so judgemental, I wouldn't mind them

This is what I am speaking about, you are being as much of a hypocrite as they are, therefore you should hate yourself, you're being as narrow minded and judgemental as they are being towards you.

About Christians not being allowed to talk to anyone that isn't Christian, you're a bit off on that one. I believe you're thinking of Jehova's Witness' who are looked down upon for associating with "worldly people."

Basically, you're saying any "Christian that comes my way should 'fuck off.'" Not all Chrisitians are hypocrites, judgemental, etc..you have just chosen to stereotype them in return to them stereotyping you. Which is a sad form of ignorance.

Their religion doesn't make them like that..it's in their own nature to be that way, in your eyes being a Chrisitian induces your hate towards them 10 times more so if they were not a Christian. Otherwise you'd just write them off as a pompus asshole.

Originally posted by Samichking
Hi there,
It is good to see that you are reaching out in an attempt to understand your anger and confusion.

I hope that you find the Truth you are so desperately seeking.

Maybe this link can be a good starting point for you:

www.christiananswers.net

or

www.probe.org

these are just two excellent resources that I am sure you will find interesting.

Remeber, Clutch.....no matter your circumstance and your thoughts, you are in His hands.


Goddamit just, shut your faggot ass mouth!

I don't know about anyone else, but I hate Christians because there own religion is hypocritical. There religion says that you showld love everyone, but every Christian I meet doesn't want to be around me because I dress differant from them, they know I'm a Witch, or they just judge me in there own ways! So I really try not to even talk to one, but they allways wanna talk to me! not to chat, (because its against there religion to talk toanyone that is not Christian) but to preach! They get on my nerves, and I'm sure everybody elses. If there religion wasn't so judgemental, I wouldn't mind them... but until that changes, they better fuck off.

hello. i'm a christian and i'm nothing like that. i dress differently. mostly all black. i have non christian friends. i do talk to them about God when i feel the need to but i don't just preach all the time. i'm sorry that all the other christians you've met are hypocrites, but people aren't perfect.

Originally posted by Wicca_Boy

I hate Christians because there own religion is hypocritical.

I love how people claim to "hate" members of a religion that thrives on compassion, rather than hatred and/or bigotry. Granted, Christianity has severe logic problems sometimes, but for Christ's sake (no pun intended), they aren't assholes who exist only to bash humanity. Avoiding you for the way you dress and the things you believe in is not a trait of Christianity as a religion; it's a trait of psychotic, holy rolling, ignorant asswads, which all Christians aren't, nor are they supposed to be. Some of my best friends are devout Christians; never do I hear them say, "Hey! Let's burn us some gays!" or "How bout beating up some colored people?" Their religion actually preaches benevolence, and they are some of the nicest people I know. I dress semi-Gothy and don't agree with them, but they never judge me for it. You ever read the Bible? Whether Jesus lived or not is inconsequential; the fact that they believe he was a generous motherfucker, combined with the fact that they seek to emulate him, says it all. I can see hating hate-based religions and groups, but hating groups simply because you don't agree - and because a select few dipshits treat you badly - is one of the most juvenile, uninformed, and "mad wack, yo" things I've ever heard. I'm sure there's a chance that atheists and Satanists would avoid ya, too.

You know, wicca boy, I know a few people who are of the wiccan religion and I don't hate them nor do I deride them because of their personal choice to worship nature or a goddess.
I disagree with them and they me, but we remain cordial to each other.
You however, have one serious chip on your shoulder.
You seem to trying your best to work out some sort of hate and agression that you hold deep within your psyche.
I have not read more hate filled rantings outside of yours in quiet some time.
Like I said, I disagree with what wiccans believe, but YOU are giving them a horrible name. Especially coming from a religion that is SUPPOSED to be so tolerant of others.
Don't you think? Boy?
(big honkin' smile)

Just poking at ya a little

k, i never said that i hate christians...but it's like this:
a lot(and i realy mean A LOT) of people won't talk to me just because i'm not christian...they start saying that i kill rabbits etc. and i just hate people that are like that...even if a muslim or whatever would act that way, i would hate that person...i try to give everyone a chance, but if someone starts saying shit like that, he can just go fuck himself because this is my life...i give everyone a chance and don't hate "groups" of people...don't hate nazis and don't hate jews...but if someone is being such a dipshit, then i hate that person and i have a right to do so...
oh, and wicca: Try to be more tolerant...i know how you feel, but try to give everyone a chance ;)
HS
Jonas

It's already been decided that Wicca Boy has deep seated resentments towards Mommy and Daddy for making him go to church.

Frankly I cringe for the rest of the wiccan's in the world because he has chosen to defile the name of their faith by making it his own.

I'm sorry, but the childish gay bashing has to go. If you want to label an entire group of people (christians) because of the idiots you have met, is it ok if I label an entire group of people (wiccans) because you have to be one of the most thoughtless examples I've ever seen? For crying out loud, you Hate more then most baptists and that's saying something.

I'm going to tell you the same thing I tell fundi's (short for Fundimental Christians). Stop it. You are making everyone else look bad with your hatred and your intolerance. If you want to be that way fine, but don't taint everyone else because of your personal issue's. (Fundi's don't like it much when I say that though.)

As for painful clutch, while I don't agree with some of the things s/he is saying, I don't get the impression of any kind of hatred. Dislike towards some of the people, and possibly some of the beliefs, but I don't think s/he is hell bent on the destruction of people who don't believe the same way.:)

Merely tossing some thoughts around. *grin*