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Ennio Morricone 11-03-03, 02:43 source: satire from scrappleface.com
October 27, 2003
Holy Month Begins in Iraq with Acts of Worship
(2003-10-27) -- In Iraq, the Muslim holy month of Ramadan began yesterday with solemn acts of worship to Allah -- like fasting, praying and detonating.
"During this time we demonstrate our devotion to Allah through actions that emphasize the peaceful nature of Islam," said one unnamed Imam, a Muslim cleric. "Today, our brothers have made it possible for dozens of people to rest in peace...Allah be praised. We are grateful to the American occupiers for allowing us to freely practice our religion."
try to leave some commentary with pastes..... that way we know what you are trying to get across.... I can easily assume of course that you have formed an irrational hatred of muslims.... yet I do not see why you posted this....
Sixgun_Symphony 11-03-03, 12:36 Dyshade,
There is a war going on. Of course you red-finks of the so called "peace movement" have been doing everything possible to help the muslims by undermining the US war effort at home.
Dyshade,
There is a war going on. Of course you red-finks of the so called "peace movement" have been doing everything possible to help the muslims by undermining the US war effort at home.
Oh........... my......... god. Are you for real?
Dyshade,
There is a war going on. Of course you red-finks of the so called "peace movement" have been doing everything possible to help the muslims by undermining the US war effort at home.
I certainly hope that was not directed at me Six..... I was merely attempting to give the guy a hand by pointing out that commentary when posting something that is cut and paste is advisable here..... actually it is a rule..... so paste and cut all you wish just leave some commentary within your own words to give a headstart to a discussion.... if not the post will be deleted......
And tone your anger down a notch..... all it is going to do is get you in trouble...
Thanks...
gArGOyLe^^ 11-03-03, 18:04 Well... it addresses you directly.. :D still not sure if it was directed at you? ;)
Well... it addresses you directly.. :D still not sure if it was directed at you? ;)
i am just asking because I do not think I ever gave anyone a reason to think of me in that light..... I rarely if ever come here and post... and usually when I do it has something to do with gun-control and I am in agreement with him... so I am wondering if maybe he just thought I was someone else.....
If not he can give me a reason for his calling me a "red-fink whateverjabob..." as I certainly cannot surmise any reason for it.....
he needs to start curbing his insultive behaviour anyways.... it gets in the way of good discussion here......
Sixgun_Symphony 11-03-03, 21:55 Alright, I will cool down and refrain from the flames.
I am just irritable right now as I live in "The People's Republic of Seattle" where more than a few Liberals feel safe enough to come out and say that we had it coming on 911. I see more and more of these pukes wearing the Kaffiya, a black and white head scarf worn by chairman Arafat.
I quit my job at the bookstore where I worked for two and a half years because I am at the end of my patience with these people.
Dark Messiah 11-03-03, 22:59 Which justifies rabid anti-Islam bigotry as demonstrated by Ennio...not in the least.
gArGOyLe^^ 11-03-03, 23:05 http://www.warchantwarriorsworld.com/images/pictures/Picture59.jpg <-- oh shit.. run you evil muslims.. Ennio is coming!!
Sixgun_Symphony 11-03-03, 23:06 Islam, like all religion, is primitive superstition. Islam is more aggressive than most.
Dark Messiah 11-03-03, 23:18 You're entitled to your belief, however stupid and ignorant it may be.
Islam is no more aggressive than any except the more relaxed ones of the far east. Hands down the most aggressive one with the most campaigning and missionaries and money and pleas and worldwide attention is Christianity. Evangilical, Episcopalian, and Catholism being among the top in these fields for lack of acceptance. Islam is in no way aggressive just as Christianity is also the same in theory. The followers of some of the more fundamental groups just have more faith in it and that leads to fanatacism which is just as bad as the people campaigning to end abortions and killing doctors in the name of Christian fundamentalism. To say Islam is more aggressive is not only absolutely wrong but one of the most uneducated phrases I can catch lately. Read about it and read Christian and Jewish texts and tell me they all aren't equal in their own aggressive tendencies.
Dark Messiah 11-04-03, 12:36 No, in practice Islam definitely is more agressive, violent, and intolerant. This has more to do with it's followers than anything else, but the fact remains that they have the largest percentage of violents in their fold (still not a majority, though). Not a condemnation of their religion at all, just a statement of fact. There are a far greater number of radical Muslim fundamentalists than Christian.
Show me proof to back this up..... there are 1.3 billion Muslims in the world and about 2 billion Christian followers. Islam preaches peace more than Christianity. Read the bible then read the Muslim scholars. There is not more fundamentalism in the Muslim faith than there is in the Christian faith. This is obvious because there are less sects of this faith. More fundamentalism and change is present in Christianity than any religion with the possible exception of Buddism. Go talk to a Jehovah's Witness and then a Catholic priest and the only difference in the amount of aggression with either of those from Muslims is that less are dieing over it right now. More missionaries and faith experts have been sent worldwide in the name of Christianity too. The only agreement you have from me is that it has more potential for violence while not even being the most aggressive. Christianity is the undisputed head of intolerence though both historically and in the present day. Prove me wrong if you'd like.
Sixgun_Symphony 11-05-03, 02:26 xcom,
All religion is bad. But Islam has been especially aggressive. Check the news, there is a conflict everywhere that Islam comes into contact with a different culture.
In Africa, the muslims are coming down from the north to wage Jihad on the christans and animists there. Arabs are trafficking in black slaves.
Central Asia, Bosnia, Kosovo... It's been reported that even Red China is having problems in their Western provinces with the Jihadis.
The Islamic Moro tribesmen in the Philipines are causing problems too. They are allied with Al Qaida and have kidnapped Western tourists. Because of the Al Qaida involvement, our governement is giving military support to the Philipine government.
Let's not forget Kashmere, that bit of land between India and Pakistan where the Jihadi's are making war on the Hindu's.
You now have enough key words, do a websearch to find more information.
No I am well aware of all the things you have said no need to do a websearch. To start with, and this seems impossible for possible grasp, no religion is bad.
Almost everything you speak of is adjustment to environment though. Do remember not too long ago Christianity used the slaves and Native Americans rebelled against Christian missionaries and white settlers. "Red" China as you call it has more problems with their various sects of buddist division and that seems missed by all or maybe Tiennemin(sp?) square's actual story is just lost. The Phillipines, much like Indonesia, have always been subject to social upheaval in the name of religion between all faiths whether there was Al Queda there or not. Ever since Christianity first broke apart the various faiths it has been a region of change.
On the subject of Kashmere it can only be said that it is most definatly not actually about religion because if it were then that area is at least 80% Muslim and more than that I think. Yet India obviously still wants it. India and the Hindu's are being just as aggressive as they were the first to announce they had the bomb to intentionally antagonize Pakistan a few years back. I don't really get the whole part about Africa because the only prodominant Christian foothold in any large degree across the entire contenent is South Africa and they were in no danger last I heard. Be one sided all you want but Islam is not the cause or the lone aggressor in the worlds conflicts. Let us not forget the Jews history of causing conflict wherever they are whether persecuted or acting as an aggressor. Then there is always India's history with bangladesh and Bhutan where border disputes are still occuring. In fact, I recently read something along the lines of there being 300 people between the borders of India and Bangladesh that niether were willing to grant asylum to because of their hatred of each other which could be said to mostly be based on religious differences. Or how about Christianity's most recent conflict in Sri Lanka.
and what the hell is a Jihadi??? There is no such word unless you mean revolutionary as the word itself implies. Western tourists are kidnapped worldwide like in Columbia for example. Despite the continued focus and sensationalism of Islam and Muslim faith none of the problems are exclusive to the Muslim world nor are they even covered properly enough for anything truthful to be said.
It is most definatly no more aggressive than any other religion. Most importantly Al Quida is not the voice of 1.3 billion Muslims worldwide. Niether is Hamas, or Islamic Jihad, or any of the other fundamentalist sects that are so fanatically reported on by the media. They are of the smallest portion of it. I have checked with the news..... 3 hours every day I search through every piece I can find of the days happenings. I've been reading up on religions since I was 10 years old. I don't believe in one but they are not bad by any means. Media sources don't know facts to nearly the extent as they know a good story and how to stretch it to meet public quota for them to actually pick it up and read it.
Sixgun_Symphony 11-05-03, 12:18 no religion is bad.
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Religion is just crass superstition. What is 'spiritualism" but the belief in spirits? Sorry pal, but there are no such things as ghosts and there is no great spook in the sky.
Jehova, Yahwe, Allah... only exists in the imagination of man.
Anyway, there is a resurgent Islam though you are in denial.
Religion and it's purpose are no different than government in their purpose so I don't see how you consider it bad. Superstition has been, and still is, one of the most important elements of a society and always will be. It doesn't matter if they exist or not the faith and belief are empowering to the billions that live happy lives around them. Call it bad all you want but even if you took away every religion new forms of it would come up. It isn't a matter of how bad it is if you consider all the importance it can have to everyone the world over. How about showing me this "resurgent Islam" if you and so many others would like to believe it?
Sixgun_Symphony 11-05-03, 12:44 Religion is crass superstition and I like to think that people can rise above it.
That you can't see the obvious shows how you are in denial. I gave you enough information to do a websearch for information. You will have to find out for yourself as you are not going to care about what anyone else has to say on the subject.
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