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Originally posted by Jordyn
i have justified many views on this board...what you're discussing has been discussed months ago, years, even before i was here...so excuse me if i'm not exacting and clear enough of my thoughts to be so...antiseptic with my beliefs, i'll try presenting them in a clinical way that you can understand...i hope you do understand after a point people began to develop their own theories based on experience, observation and just living life, rather than text book confirmation that's outdated yearly...but i have read all the information on what i've developed a desire to know about...
back on topic, there is no proof for or against god...faith does not require proof, and i don't remember it ever expecting any...but to try and dismiss those who do have faith and believe using scientific theory...there's no way to prove that scientific fact or lack there of for anyhing requiring an individuals mind...so is there a point to this thread other than encouraging an i'm right, your wrong mentality?
If you want a discussion on faith, there's plenty of it in religion |
To summarise your point...you see me as a threat to your cosy unclinical views of the world. My 'Proof' to you means nothing as it falls outside the category of "all the information on what i've developed a desire to know about...". The point to this thread is to discuss in relation to known fact and thought whether proof is needed to create faith. You have already made it quite clear that proof is not needed to create faith, what you see as going through life and developing a concept of personal truth I see as the inability to face the world with the question 'why?' due to not feeling comfortable with the alternative reality suggested by people with actual proof that you will no doubt refute no matter what because you don't want it to be true.
I don't want evolution to be true..I'd love to wake up every morning and think 'God made me for a purpose and I shall indeed go forth and multiply' or whatever but I'm incapable of living my life based around an outmoded belief system of any sort just because it makes me feel better. I like the idea of us coming from monkeys despite it being true because I'm rather fond of our furry coconut headed friends and see them as the closest thing in weirdness to us anyway.
What Godlessness is about is taking responcibility for our own actions instead of blaming any divine plan, it's about accepting that we as the human race are not the chosen ones, we are still very special because we may very likely be the only example of life in an infinite universe..this makes us infinitely preciouse and it is our task if we truely care about life to make sure it is maintained in equilibrium. And not to rely on some cosmic parent figure to step in and do the work for us.